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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 24
      Replying to @peez @HPluckrose and

      One point that would have been nice to hear brought up in relation to this is that the authors do argue against these ideas in ways that don't involve hoaxes rather often. This project is supplementary to that. Meant to address some common responses to that argument.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @peez and

      But I think an ethical position against insincere scholarship intended to be revealed with an argument that there's a problem with knowledge production in that field can be consistently & coherently held whether you consider this hoaxing or not. I'd disagree with it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. David Pizarro‏ @peez Oct 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      And I’m totally fine disagreeing with you on that! (I suspect you are fine too). I just wanted to go on record to clarify what the disagreement is about. (But hey, i also think lots of practical jokes border on unethical). The harder q to answer is whether they’re effective.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and

      I don't like practical jokes either. If you think this is a practical joke, all I can ask is that you read the Areo piece. If you doubt our own account of what we did and why, at least consider why we'd write so seriously about it for years & then spend a year full time on it.

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    5. David Pizarro‏ @peez Oct 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      I read the piece (before we recorded and again after). I don’t think this is a practical joke- was merely agreeing that I think many people might reasonably set a different ethical threshold about the appropriateness of faking articles as a method of criticism.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and

      Yes and I have said I hope they'd do so consistently and if they find that undercover sting operations to reveal corruption are OK in some areas and not others, ask themselves if they could have a bias.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose @peez and

      But ultimately an objection to what was essentially an uncontrolled reflexive ethnography without the consent of the field examined to reveal problems in it can be honestly made. Assessments of us as motivated by a wish to pull cheap tricks, hurt ppl or oppose equality cannot.

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    8. David Pizarro‏ @peez Oct 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      None of which were assessments I made (are you saying that’s been my tactic?)

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and

      You called it a practical joke and said we were gleefully attacking *people* and it sounded as tho you said we had opposing views on gender equality. If you don't think any of that & accept that we had good motivations, we can disagree on whether this will help or be ethical.

      5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose @peez and

      I think I replaced "delight" with "glee," ftr. Here's the quote: "it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth that they do this with such delight and that they've spent this much time to try and take down people." - Peez

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @peez and

      It's very hard to address the tone of that whole segment without justifiable criticisms of the same mindreading which I have objected being done to us, but yes, it did seem hostile to us & to assume our motivation was spite against people rather than continuation of sincere work

      5:57 PM - 24 Oct 2018
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        2. David Pizarro‏ @peez Oct 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

          Well, unfortunately i can only appeal to my clarifications here. Our joking tone may be the culprit. But i do hope that our interaction at least undid some of what you felt. FWIW i found you to be a fair discussing here, and i appreciate that.

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        3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 24
          Replying to @peez @HPluckrose and

          Fwiw, I was disappointed and a bit pissed when I initially heard the podcast and my response may have been a bit hyperbolic. I do think you were unfair with them though. I appreciate your in depth discussion here.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Very Bad Wizards‏ @verybadwizards Oct 24
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @peez and

          Thanks, Kevin.

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