But I think an ethical position against insincere scholarship intended to be revealed with an argument that there's a problem with knowledge production in that field can be consistently & coherently held whether you consider this hoaxing or not. I'd disagree with it.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and
And I’m totally fine disagreeing with you on that! (I suspect you are fine too). I just wanted to go on record to clarify what the disagreement is about. (But hey, i also think lots of practical jokes border on unethical). The harder q to answer is whether they’re effective.
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Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and
Consistently? Do you think it is ever OK to go undercover to examine a system from within it and reveal a specific problem? I think we all draw a line somewhere. I wouldn't risk bad medical advice getting published. You'd prob be OK with revealing bad medical care?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and
Sure, of course. But we’re just disagreeing about how to “reveal”, I think?
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Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and
Yes, but are we? Do you disagree that it is ever OK to misrepresent your identity and write papers that you don't believe to be good scholarship in order to show a problem in a field and how it works from start to finish?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @peez and
Or do you disagree that it was OK to do this to fields looking at race, gender and sexuality with a view to advancing social justice? Because you are sympathetic to the causes? That is most people's view & I get it. We have a bit about that in the Areo piece too.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and
Not at all- i think (and have said many times) that a lot of the work in those areas is ridiculous. What gets me is that it seems that a lot of folks think that disagreeing about the value of your method has to mean I am defending the work you criticize. But it doesn’t.
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Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and
No, it is quite possible to say, as even the Wall Street Journal did, that they thought this approach unethical but that it does point to a serious problem in the field.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and
But “real peer review” points the problem pretty effectively.
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Replying to @peez @Intrinsic29 and
They do a lot of good highlighting the problem, yes. It doesn't mean the rest of shouldn't address it too and in a number of ways. People get the madness from RPR. I hope to show how it works so they know how to counter it.
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This is why I have written a series of essays breaking down the key ideas underlying the problem & how it evolved & spread & how it manifests in society & am also writing a book to do this in more detail. We also wanted to participate in it from the inside to show how it works.
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