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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Claire Lehmann

      I misread this in haste when I responded yesterday. https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1054886048625541120 … It is not the empirical & generally reasonable scholars who are responding in deranged & vitriolic ways. Those opposed tend to respond by ignoring our point & referring to a number of extraneous factorshttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1054883200525230081 …

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      Claire LehmannVerified account @clairlemon
      I’ve noticed empirical scholars dumping on the Sokal Squared authors too. Not sure what the motivation is (?) but seems like it’s a function of valuing the social club of academia above scholarship integrity https://twitter.com/conceptualjames/status/1054869585462214656?s=21 …
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

      "We all know some papers in these fields are mad but couldn't this be addressed straightforwardly? Are hoaxes not a form of deception? Weren't the papers actually in keeping with the genre so not really a hoax (yes, that's the point)? Wasn't reviewers' time wasted?

      12:48 PM - 24 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          Whereas before when we had tried to get reasonable academics to see that this was happening, they'd usually say "Oh, but some bad papers always get through. It's publish or perish. Most are still sound." Hence wanting to show the system is actually set up to be unsound.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          Now, the response has largely changed from " We do see the problem with the grievance studies approach but think you're exaggerating the structural embeddedness of it." to "We do see the problem with the grievance studies approach but don't think this is the way to address it."

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          I think, in these cases, the reality is "We'll claim to see the problem with the grievance studies approach if pushed & to differentiate our own work from it but don't really want anything to be done about it due to having internalised some of it & misguided loyalty to colleagues

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          I think the reality is that very many people just don't see an evidence-based epistemology and consistent ethics around social justice issues as being that important & are happy not to argue with "other ways of knowing" & "judging ppl by gender, race & sexuality is OK sometimes."

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          Charitably, I'd say they perceive this as a daffy but relatively harmless alternative form of scholarship to empirical research & consistent ethics and so should be included as part of the productive diversity of ideas.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 24

          If so, I'd agree it's daffy, disagree that it's harmless, agree that it is an alternative epistemology and ethical system that should be part of the academic conversation but that the productivity of ideological diversity comes from robust argument & criticism not accepting all.

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        1. Jamie Dance... ghost?‏ @jdthndr Oct 24
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          "There is a downside to this - wasted time - therefore the whole thing is ethically (and factually, apparently?) wrong" This is black and white thinking. It's akin to a depressive hearing one note of criticism and discounting the preceding ten minutes of praise.

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