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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

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      And another hour is gone. I'm just going to have start muting people.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1054724915868430341 …

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      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      OK, I just lost another half an hour to arguing about it but no more. Go away, dozens of people spewing very basic mantras which don't relate to anything I have said. You're stuck on "Gender Ideology Speaking Points for Beginners: Lesson One" and I don't have time for it. https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1054714047571116032 …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

      This very bizarre phenomenon keeps happening where people think in clusters of ideas and so don't respond to what you have actually said but pick something else in the cluster and argue with that.

      7 replies 8 retweets 26 likes
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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

      The most extreme example of this was when I said I was not convinced the earnings gap was caused by men doing more dangerous jobs than women and someone responded angrily that I didn't care about women's rights under Islam.

      3 replies 4 retweets 18 likes
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

      It was because they associated scepticism of a particular non-sexist explanation for the wage gap with a whole set of views held by western intersectional feminists and it seemed perfectly reasonable to them to select any of those views to argue with.

      7:14 AM - 23 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

          This is tribal thinking. There's also another one I am being hit with right now a lot. The argument that it is suspicious that I am only critical of extreme views and if I were a sincere critic I should really criticise the reasonable ideas of that same group.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

          Because people think in terms of tribes and think that an attack on the worst ideas of a tribe while agreeing with the best ones is inconsistent rather than an indication that someone is engaging, not with tribes, but with ideas.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

          They see it as "attacking low hanging fruit" if I am critical of extreme identitarian movements on the left but don't make a reasoned argument against universal healthcare. This assumes that I really just want to attack the left and am going for what is easiest.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23

          I'll be told that if I were sincere I'd steelman the ideas on the left by going for the best ones and ignoring the worst ones. The idea that I'd like the left to focus on its best ideas and weed out the worst ones coz I want it to win is not even considered.

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        1. psymin‏ @psymin Oct 23
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          How can we move past such things and onto productive and civil discussion?

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