And another hour is gone. I'm just going to have start muting people.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1054724915868430341 …
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The most extreme example of this was when I said I was not convinced the earnings gap was caused by men doing more dangerous jobs than women and someone responded angrily that I didn't care about women's rights under Islam.
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It was because they associated scepticism of a particular non-sexist explanation for the wage gap with a whole set of views held by western intersectional feminists and it seemed perfectly reasonable to them to select any of those views to argue with.
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This is tribal thinking. There's also another one I am being hit with right now a lot. The argument that it is suspicious that I am only critical of extreme views and if I were a sincere critic I should really criticise the reasonable ideas of that same group.
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Because people think in terms of tribes and think that an attack on the worst ideas of a tribe while agreeing with the best ones is inconsistent rather than an indication that someone is engaging, not with tribes, but with ideas.
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They see it as "attacking low hanging fruit" if I am critical of extreme identitarian movements on the left but don't make a reasoned argument against universal healthcare. This assumes that I really just want to attack the left and am going for what is easiest.
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I'll be told that if I were sincere I'd steelman the ideas on the left by going for the best ones and ignoring the worst ones. The idea that I'd like the left to focus on its best ideas and weed out the worst ones coz I want it to win is not even considered.
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I find that's because a significant portion of people aren't interested in arguing, but appealing to their side.
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I think social media makes tribalism more extreme. Everyone, whether consciously or not, is chasing the dopamine hit from getting likes/retweets. So they will start from either a supportive or dismissive point of view and almost never a curious or intellectually honest one.
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I wondered about a Twitter without likes.
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We'd get less tribalism but probably a lot less participation. The likes are essentially rewarding a behavior which tends to create more of it.
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Came to the same conclusion. Not sure if the increase in tribalism is worth it. It carries over into the "real world".
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Doing away with likes also makes it harder to track how many people agree with something. Example: Without the 10.9K likes I would have seen this tweet as a single crazy person mumbling to itself.pic.twitter.com/1GX1rC42wu
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Almost as if they don't have any opinions of their own and all just spew rehearsed lines they don't really understandhttps://twitter.com/ViolentSpeech/status/1054738404821360642 …
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This is a real thing. It's some kind of slippery slope ideation, but instead of sliding suddenly between many degrees of severity, people slide suddenly between barely or only tangentially related ideas.
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Increased political tribalism and an increasingly dogmatic view of politics leads people to think that disagreeing with any tenet of their beliefs means disagreeing with ALL of it.
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That's why it's important to stay on one topic until resolved - and refuse to be tricked into people ignoring your points. Like "let's stay with x before we move on to other topic]. Often it's cuz they don't want to confront a solid point.
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