Is this a reply to me? To be clear, I'm not asking if trans ppl are fakes, of course I believe trans ppl exist. I'm asking why (in your understanding) someone will feel like the opposite sex. What tells them this is the case? A butch lesbian is not a trans man, for example.
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Yes. I just said why above.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @S_h_e_e_n_a_ and
We still don't understand it very well but the evidence that trans people feeling the opposite sex to their gonads is rooted in biology is growing. More importantly, society needs to figure out how to make this easier for trans people without contravening any women's rights.
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I cannot help that there is so much confused thought here. What we observe is dysphoria in some (not all in the broad umbrella of ‘trans’). Dysphoria is a psychological distress at not taking on stereotypical roles and appearances of the opposite sex. ...
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Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose and
… Having psychological distress does not mean the underlying concepts of sex are wrong. It means there may may be social, or indeed biological, factors that give rise to such distress. Paraphilias may be one reason. Social contagion/pressure another.
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Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose and
We don’t conclude that our concepts of weight are wrong because some people have severe distress about false beliefs about their weight. Why are we doing so here with sex?
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Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose and
To me the problem is that many people assume that everyone has a ‘gender identity’ and I do not think this is the case. There is our biological sex and there is the way in which others see us and treat us on account of it-
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Replying to @ortrudethevegan @lecanardnoir and
For MOST people there is no inner feeling- for some there is- and this we don’t understand
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Replying to @ortrudethevegan @lecanardnoir and
It seems likely that it is because we don't have to be aware of feeling the way everyone recognises us. If everyone suddenly recognised you as a man, I expect you'd feel a sharp sense of the wrongness of this which wouldn't require reasoning from your genitals.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir and
But that’s hypothetical really isn’t it- they wouldn’t do that, because of my biology, size etc. They will not be mistaken-
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Yes. That is not a claim that this is likely to happen. It is addressing how you'd be likely to feel if it did happen. It's a thought experiment to make you consider that. Oh dear. We've tried to talk and had this problem before, haven't we? I'll bail out now.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir and
Yep! I am very much a biology person- (but it goes with what I do in my work)
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