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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      The reality is that there is no stable meanings to these words, yes. If there were, you'd not be arguing to me that gender doesn't make sense because it would. I didn't make the reality and pretending it doesn't exist won't produce an objective, material meaning.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @theedwardian81

      Until historically very recently, the word ‘woman’ has had a very stable and coherent meaning - adult human female. Some men have then declared “I am a woman” and suddenly everyone is in a mess. We can choose to a) say, “that is not true”, or b) abandon any meaning to the word.

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
    3. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
      Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose @theedwardian81

      Can you explain what it is that has led you to adopt position (b)?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
      Replying to @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      I mean the science of it is new. Obviously, you can advocate for only going by reproductive systems for ethical or political reasons but this won't make the reality that people who feel the opposite sex to their gonads exist or the science which is starting to show why go away.

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    5. Sheena‏ @S_h_e_e_n_a_ Oct 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      Helen, do you think that people feel the opposite sex because they are comparing their own behaviours/preferences with those of other people, or do you believe that if a trans person was on a desert island they'd still think there was a mismatch between their body & mind?

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
      Replying to @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      No. That wouldn't cause them to have different amounts of white & grey matter more similar to the other sex, differences in hormones, genetics or response to pheromones. Of course, some people are ideological fakes or confused but trans people exist.

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    7. Sheena‏ @S_h_e_e_n_a_ Oct 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      Is this a reply to me? To be clear, I'm not asking if trans ppl are fakes, of course I believe trans ppl exist. I'm asking why (in your understanding) someone will feel like the opposite sex. What tells them this is the case? A butch lesbian is not a trans man, for example.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
      Replying to @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @lecanardnoir @theedwardian81

      Yes. I just said why above.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @S_h_e_e_n_a_ and

      We still don't understand it very well but the evidence that trans people feeling the opposite sex to their gonads is rooted in biology is growing. More importantly, society needs to figure out how to make this easier for trans people without contravening any women's rights.

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    10. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
      Replying to @HPluckrose @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @theedwardian81

      I cannot help that there is so much confused thought here. What we observe is dysphoria in some (not all in the broad umbrella of ‘trans’). Dysphoria is a psychological distress at not taking on stereotypical roles and appearances of the opposite sex. ...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
      Replying to @lecanardnoir @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @theedwardian81

      We can't have a conversation if you ignore what has been said about the findings of science. Believe what you want but I'd urge you to leave trans people alone. I refer you back to my article because I've not said anything that isn't better expressed there.

      5:32 AM - 23 Oct 2018
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        2. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
          Replying to @HPluckrose @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @theedwardian81

          I reject your interpretation of what science is saying. Science is not finding ‘male’ brains in females etc. Average differences in brain structures can be found between any two groupings of individuals. Its flapdoodle to claim cause and effect here.

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        3. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
          Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose and

          You are using motivated science to support a prior position. The gender ideological position on brain science is cherry picked, motivated and badly controlled and interpreted.

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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