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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

      For someone who claims to care about being fairly represented you don't seem to mind when you misrepresent the arguments of others to make yourself look better. I don't recall making the case that 'it doesn't really matter' and all that matters is who Peter associates with.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @CathyYoung63 and

      I'm not claiming you think that but rather than the project, you just want to talk about Dave Rubin, Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux and the biases common to classical liberals and us being associated with them. This happens so much, I tend to think its deflection

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    3. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

      How about the fact that in most of the above I am responding to specific questions you asked! For instance, you specifically ask me to lay out the biases of classical liberals. I have explicitly distinguished you, James, and Peter and said from the start that people should...

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    4. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      ... consider the content of your critique and what you found. To make it even more explicit THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IDEOLOGICAL PANDERING = SCIENTIFIC MERIT in some fields. But acknowledging that does not mean it is deflecting to consider the biases/agenda of those ...

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    5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      ... involved. Which include you, PB, and James and potentially your mystery funder. I accept your reasons for not disclosing funding btw but it is not a non-issue. Now, where in that did I say ignore all your findings because PB talked to Molyneux?

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @CathyYoung63 and

      You didn't say to. You just did it.

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    7. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

      That's convenient. So are you saying it is ok for you to read between the lines of what I explicitly said?

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @CathyYoung63 and

      That doesn't make any sense. I am addressing what you did not asserting that you said you were going to do it. Please go away now if you won't have an honest discussion.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      I can say that someone disregarded one thing and spoke about something else at length even if they don't say "I'm going to disregard this thing and talk about something else at length" Good grief.

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    10. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

      I actually completely agree with that but I think that what you just found frustratingly obvious is exactly the same way I feel about your transparent efforts to self servingly frame this discussion in a manner that makes you the only honest participant.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @CathyYoung63 and

      I think you're honest! I'm sure you genuinely think that what's important to discuss is a load of other people you associate with criticisms of SocJus scholarship and activism as context rather than what we did & why. I find this flawed for the reasons I gave & I want out.

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        1. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

          In this particular thread yes because that's what I was discussing. If I was discussing the merits of your hoax and problems of certain fields that would be a different discussion. But I also want out. So let's leave it at that.

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