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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      I also feel like your moving dangerously close to guilt by association.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @SkepticReview89 @C_Kavanagh and

      Yes. Too much of the "you've has conversations with someone who turned out to be a ideological loon."

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

      Turned out? Was Stefan’s nature in any doubt over the past decade? Again, this isn’t about being ideologically cloistered, it is about choosing to repeatedly happily converse with someone who ran a predatory online cult and is a fairy blatant misogynist/racist.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

      You can disagree that that's a good thing to do. He also tries to talk to antifa and the most extreme feminists, BTW. But whatever you think of his judgement in that doesn't say anything about the project or his/our motivation in this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

      Did he repeatedly appear with extreme feminists/antifa advocates to bash the excesses of the far right? If so I would genuinely like to see that. I disagree it’s irrelevant. It speaks to his judgment and what he considers important. It doesn’t automatically impugn you or the ...

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      ... project overall. But it is relevant when assessing his involvement. What you call bad judgment, I call pandering. He didn’t go on to challenge Stefan on his lack of critical thinking/abuse of research on race. He went on to bash feminism.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

      OK. I'll leave you to talk about character, motivation and association of authors rather than their ideas but I am disappointed. We do bash feminism tho. Yes. That's an actual stated position to engage with that doesn't require mindreading or guilt by association.

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    8. Cathy Young‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      I've been following this conversation -- don't have time to really participate right now, but I will say that while I don't doubt your motives certain associations are a real problem.

      3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. Cathy Young‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Oct 22
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HPluckrose and

      If you bash feminism on Molyneux's podcast, you're basically giving reinforcement to someone known for saying extreme misogynist stuff. (*Really* misogynist, not in the "SJW" sense.)

      4 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    10. Cathy Young‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Oct 22
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HPluckrose and

      (And I know it's not you, it's PB. Also, FWIW, I'm on your side re #SokaledSquare and I hope to write about it.)

      2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @C_Kavanagh and

      Thank you! But I will take exception to people insisting Peter is racist or sexist too because I know him & it's entirely unjustified. Nobody who knows him can think this. I don't expect anyone else to take my word for that but it is true so I will defend.

      10:06 PM - 22 Oct 2018
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        2. psye‏ @psye82 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

          I don't think Cathy meant it that way. Molyneaux has been successful in poaching academics partly due to a snowball effect of former high profile guests - also not aware of his repugnant views - lending false credibility. Valid criticism can be co-opted to promulgate real hate.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @psye82 @CathyYoung63 and

          Oh no. Cathy didn't accuse Peter of that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Roccam's Occam Robots‏ @myhumangetsme Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @psye82 and

          No, but she is tut-tutting you for speaking to people on her unapproved list, like any good American left libertarian prig would.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @myhumangetsme @psye82 and

          No. Cathy is not that kind of person and I respect her a great deal.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. End of conversation
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        2. Cathy Young‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          I’m not saying he is! Just that it’s poor judgement imho

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @CathyYoung63 @SkepticReview89 and

          I know you weren't. I'm explaining why I'm getting defensive.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        4. Shannon #BernierNation‏ @OHSNLobby Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

          Helen, keep up the great work. Don't listen to those that tell you what your priorities are/should be. Wait...is that me? Am I meta-doing to you what I just said you shouldn't allow other people to do to you? Ah!

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