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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      ... a more in depth examination of the pros and cons and surrounding context of your efforts. I don’t deny you the right to explain your motivation but that doesn’t mean I have to uncritically swallow it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      Ah! You've moved on from disagreeing with people who say we don't have an agenda to disagreeing with us about what we say ours is? Well, I can't do much about that. It never helps to argue with mindreaders. We are the only authority on our own motivations.

      3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      Apologies. I took you for someone pointing out a fact to people who have missed it. I had no idea you were hostile & would respond with indignant snark & mindreading or I'd not have attempted talking to you. I'll leave you to condemn the version of us you have invented.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      I'm sorry Helen. I know it gets exhausting when you are such an honest, transparent and open scholar and writer.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @SkepticReview89 @C_Kavanagh and

      I try to be! I don't mind if people think I'm evil for what I actually think. But it seems that Chris and I were at cross-purposes anyway.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      He's very polite but he won't agree that he can know biases and agendas through probabilities and that particularly Boghossian is anti science, so we had to leave it there.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @SkepticReview89 @HPluckrose and

      Just for the record that’s not what I’ve said. I haven’t said Boghossian is anti science and I’ve only said it is possible to identify biases and ideological agendas through applying normal skepticism/critical thinking. Ignoring all context isn’t being pure and objective.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

      Good. He's definitely not anti-science. You can detect his biases and ideological agendas best through reading him write about them tho or listening to him talk about them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

      For instance, on his discussions with Stefan Molyneux? Would you recommend that as a good resource for folks interested?

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    10. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      That’s snark. But it’s snark with a point. I don’t think Peter entirely acknowledges his biases. No one does. But different folks make more/less effort to combat them.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

      I don't know what that means. Too vague.

      8:59 PM - 22 Oct 2018
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        2. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

          Your suggestion to listen to Peter’s talks to hear him identify biases sounds, to be blunt, naive. He does talk about cognitive biases but that doesn’t mean he consistently applies such insight to accurately assess his own positions/biases. Generally people are not great judges..

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        3. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

          ... of their own biases. They are good at pointing out others though. Again, see Sam Harris for endless illustrations of this in action.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

          Too vague.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

          What’s vague? Do you want me to list the usual biases of classical liberals? I would imagine you have encountered them. I asked the Q about Rubin earlier partly to assess whether you recognise such biases exist.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

          Yes. "I suspect this person of having the usual biases of the classical liberal" is too vague. They vary a lot on values but are usually close to libertarians, particularly economically. This is just tribal bias of yours. Look at individuals and what they say.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          It's really easy if you just take a step back and try. It's much more intellectually satisfying too.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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