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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Arthur Dent‏ @ArthurCDent Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Yes, they wrote at length about their motivations, and I don't think they were claiming to do a scientific study. They did a sting operation - like young-looking undercover cops trying to prove an establishment sells alcohol to underage customers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @ArthurCDent @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Sure and they had success but people should recognise the event for what it is- advocacy. To say it is non-political and non-ideological is naïve. Boghossian might say he is just pro-science/critical thinking but his actions suggest otherwise or at least broader motives.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      If anyone says that, it shows they haven't read the Areo write-up where we say very clearly that we're advocating not only for evidence-based epistemology but also consistently liberal ethics. We've said it pretty much everywhere else too. We've been writing about this for years.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    4. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ArthurCDent and

      You don’t think I could have read the Areo piece and arrived from a different view than what you explicitly tell me to think? Wow I guess I’m reading articles wrong. I usually don’t accept on faith the authors framing. I would refer you to the article by @Musa_alGharbi for...

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    5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

      ... a more in depth examination of the pros and cons and surrounding context of your efforts. I don’t deny you the right to explain your motivation but that doesn’t mean I have to uncritically swallow it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      Ah! You've moved on from disagreeing with people who say we don't have an agenda to disagreeing with us about what we say ours is? Well, I can't do much about that. It never helps to argue with mindreaders. We are the only authority on our own motivations.

      3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

      Apologies. I took you for someone pointing out a fact to people who have missed it. I had no idea you were hostile & would respond with indignant snark & mindreading or I'd not have attempted talking to you. I'll leave you to condemn the version of us you have invented.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ArthurCDent and

      Up to you. As far as I can judge, I’m being no more hostile or snarky than you and co-hoaxers are regularly to those you disagree with. Is it possible to have different assessment of your actions and do so in good faith for legitimate reasons?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      I try not to snark but I can be sarcastic when insulted. I was taken back by yours because I was agreeing with you. You can think my motivations different to those I express but you'd be wrong and I think you'd see that if you read my stuff regularly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ArthurCDent and

      I’ve read some of your stuff, there is a reason that I separated out the positions of the three authors and did not include you when talking about typical biases of classical liberalism. I know you will defend co authors too but I am sure you would also agree you aren’t...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      I'm not a classical liberal, no. I'm a left liberal. Also there is a language difference across the Atlantic with liberal, progressive etc. We all share values tho.

      8:47 PM - 22 Oct 2018
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