Do you mean academics or others? I think it's reasonable for us to have a professional focus on ideas within the academy, rather than politics. But switching to politics, you'll notice the right does get a lot of mileage out of 'PC gone mad' issues, stemming from the academy.
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I’m referring to a general trend amongst those who claim to be rationalists/skeptics/etc. It’s more of an online phenomenon than academic one but there are academics who pander to that crowd. Id include Boghossian amongst them. I say this as someone who identifies as the above.
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I personally think it would be better if you could look at the work as whether it is valid or not--the personalities behind it are really not something we can know as true. If you judge all work by the person behind it you will miss a lot.
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I don’t think it’s an either/or thing. Judge a work on its own merits but consider the agenda/biases of the author. Even in empirical research the ideology people approach a question from very often defines the answer they receive.
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Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and
Consider the Sokal squared hoax in their promo video the flat out say that when they initially failed to get the answer they wanted they worried they had wasted their time. But then they found a better way to get their desired outcome. That’s not science that’s advocacy.
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Yes, they wrote at length about their motivations, and I don't think they were claiming to do a scientific study. They did a sting operation - like young-looking undercover cops trying to prove an establishment sells alcohol to underage customers.
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Sure and they had success but people should recognise the event for what it is- advocacy. To say it is non-political and non-ideological is naïve. Boghossian might say he is just pro-science/critical thinking but his actions suggest otherwise or at least broader motives.
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Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and
If anyone says that, it shows they haven't read the Areo write-up where we say very clearly that we're advocating not only for evidence-based epistemology but also consistently liberal ethics. We've said it pretty much everywhere else too. We've been writing about this for years.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and
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I know it happens tho. Its truly bizarre. We keep writing about our agenda. We even wrote a manifesto. Then people say they don't believe our claims not to have an agenda.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1049419988619153409?s=19 …
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Helen Pluckrose @HPluckroseOf everything that is happening right now, I am most amazed at the number of people telling me they see right through my claim not to have an agenda and have cunningly discerned that I have a problem with various kinds of identity-based scholarship & activism.Show this thread1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and
We believe all Helens! Seriously, it is confounding to me to understand what other benefit you might be after. That was some HARD work. I heard
@ConceptualJames say he worked 80-90 hours 7 days a week. And you were balancing family, book, editing, articles. I trust every word.1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
Thanks! We are not claiming to be politically & ideologically neutral. On the contrary, we're arguing from the left in favour of Enlightenment science, reason & liberalism. We've written so many articles abt this. How to beat Trump. How to defend against postmoderns & premoderns
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Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and
Helen can I ask a genuine question to help me gauge where you are coming from. Do you think Dave Rubin is a liberal just trying to reform the left? Do you see yourself in same vein or something different? Not intended as gotcha, just genuinely curious. Asking personally not as...
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Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and
I am answering personally. Other people I respect and share liberal lefty aims with disagree with me about that.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and
We just call him the party planner.
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