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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Arthur Dent‏ @ArthurCDent Oct 21
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Well I was aiming not for 'guilt by association' but rather hopefully pointing to a disturbing approach to epistemology that isn't liberal, scientific, or progressive.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 21
      Replying to @ArthurCDent @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      I see the argument but I doubt fans of critical theory would agree since almost universally their approach to ‘power’ analysis involves efforts to empower/enfranchise/support those they deem powerless. Are their many critical theorists that support Trump/Erdogan, etc.?

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 21
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      Because there certainly are an appalling amount who self identify as scientifically minded, rationalists who have revealed themselves to be, at the very least, more concerned about liberal irrationalism than the rise of an illiberal right across the US and Europe.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    4. Arthur Dent‏ @ArthurCDent Oct 21
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Do you mean academics or others? I think it's reasonable for us to have a professional focus on ideas within the academy, rather than politics. But switching to politics, you'll notice the right does get a lot of mileage out of 'PC gone mad' issues, stemming from the academy.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @ArthurCDent @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      I’m referring to a general trend amongst those who claim to be rationalists/skeptics/etc. It’s more of an online phenomenon than academic one but there are academics who pander to that crowd. Id include Boghossian amongst them. I say this as someone who identifies as the above.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent @CathyYoung63

      I personally think it would be better if you could look at the work as whether it is valid or not--the personalities behind it are really not something we can know as true. If you judge all work by the person behind it you will miss a lot.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @SkepticReview89 @ArthurCDent @CathyYoung63

      I don’t think it’s an either/or thing. Judge a work on its own merits but consider the agenda/biases of the author. Even in empirical research the ideology people approach a question from very often defines the answer they receive.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

      Consider the Sokal squared hoax in their promo video the flat out say that when they initially failed to get the answer they wanted they worried they had wasted their time. But then they found a better way to get their desired outcome. That’s not science that’s advocacy.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Arthur Dent‏ @ArthurCDent Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Yes, they wrote at length about their motivations, and I don't think they were claiming to do a scientific study. They did a sting operation - like young-looking undercover cops trying to prove an establishment sells alcohol to underage customers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    10. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
      Replying to @ArthurCDent @SkepticReview89 @CathyYoung63

      Sure and they had success but people should recognise the event for what it is- advocacy. To say it is non-political and non-ideological is naïve. Boghossian might say he is just pro-science/critical thinking but his actions suggest otherwise or at least broader motives.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

      If anyone says that, it shows they haven't read the Areo write-up where we say very clearly that we're advocating not only for evidence-based epistemology but also consistently liberal ethics. We've said it pretty much everywhere else too. We've been writing about this for years.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

          I know it happens tho. Its truly bizarre. We keep writing about our agenda. We even wrote a manifesto. Then people say they don't believe our claims not to have an agenda.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1049419988619153409?s=19 …

          Helen Pluckrose added,

          Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
          Of everything that is happening right now, I am most amazed at the number of people telling me they see right through my claim not to have an agenda and have cunningly discerned that I have a problem with various kinds of identity-based scholarship & activism.
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        3. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          We believe all Helens! Seriously, it is confounding to me to understand what other benefit you might be after. That was some HARD work. I heard @ConceptualJames say he worked 80-90 hours 7 days a week. And you were balancing family, book, editing, articles. I trust every word.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @SkepticReview89 @C_Kavanagh and

          Thanks! We are not claiming to be politically & ideologically neutral. On the contrary, we're arguing from the left in favour of Enlightenment science, reason & liberalism. We've written so many articles abt this. How to beat Trump. How to defend against postmoderns & premoderns

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

          Helen can I ask a genuine question to help me gauge where you are coming from. Do you think Dave Rubin is a liberal just trying to reform the left? Do you see yourself in same vein or something different? Not intended as gotcha, just genuinely curious. Asking personally not as...

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

          I am answering personally. Other people I respect and share liberal lefty aims with disagree with me about that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          We just call him the party planner.🤣

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ArthurCDent and

          You don’t think I could have read the Areo piece and arrived from a different view than what you explicitly tell me to think? Wow I guess I’m reading articles wrong. I usually don’t accept on faith the authors framing. I would refer you to the article by @Musa_alGharbi for...

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        3. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @HPluckrose and

          ... a more in depth examination of the pros and cons and surrounding context of your efforts. I don’t deny you the right to explain your motivation but that doesn’t mean I have to uncritically swallow it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent and

          Ah! You've moved on from disagreeing with people who say we don't have an agenda to disagreeing with us about what we say ours is? Well, I can't do much about that. It never helps to argue with mindreaders. We are the only authority on our own motivations.

          3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
        5. Skeptic Review‏ @SkepticReview89 Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @C_Kavanagh and

          That is exactly what is happening. Your agenda is in doubt, but I don't have a clear answer as to what that other secret nefarious agenda is.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @SkepticReview89 @C_Kavanagh and

          It depends where the other person is coming from. Usually, its that we're secretly reactionary rightists but after the socialists came out in support of us and we condemned Hungary's shutting down of gender studies, we've been accused of being Marxists & libtards again.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        7. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

          A sign of the times and/or a sign that you have attracted a disproportionate amount of ideological followers. Nuance should be seen as positive tho, I wish more people were willing to piss off their audience in favour of honesty.

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @C_Kavanagh @SkepticReview89 and

          Are you a liberal lefty? You sound like a liberal lefty. If so, this is all aimed primarily at you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Chris Kavanagh‏ @C_Kavanagh Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticReview89 and

          Unsure afte previous confusion if this is aimed at me. If it is, I’d say I’m a centre left person. Certainly not far left.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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