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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I understand the US government is going about defining man and woman based on a framework of biological sex. What alternatives should be used to not ‘erase' trans people that are coherent, material, objective and useful in law?

      4 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I'm not even sure what that question means. There's seldom a need to define the sex of someone in law and when there is, it usually comes down to some biological difference which can be accounted for in law.

      6 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    3. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      In the UK, sex is a protected characteristic that enables women, for example, to exclude men from certain protected spaced (prisons, rape crisis centres etc). Such protections require a defintion of what a man and a woman is. This is quite fundamental, no?

      1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      No, they don't. One can recognise the reality that trans people exist and that, in some areas, like sport and prisons, their rights and inclusion need to be considered in a class of their own. We wrote this about it.https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ …

      3 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    5. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Of course trans people exist, but I suspect their many experiences, motives and presentations do not enable a unified, useful defintion. On the other hand, you appear to not want to recognise the objective, material existence of women? I hope I am wrong.

      2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I sent you an essay. I recognise the objective material reality that biological sex is bimodal in teams of reproductive systems, yes, but also that gender comes from a variety of other biological aspects like brains, hormones, genetics etc.

      3 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    7. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      One of the problems I have reading such things is understanding what people mean by the central terms they use. I think we might agree what a ‘sex’ is. But hat is a ‘gender’?

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I probably can't explain that on Twitter. Particularly as people go one way or another on whether it includes a load of cognitive, psychological and behavioural stuff which is biological.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I have never seen anyone explain what a ‘gender’ is. Everyone ducks out.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    10. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir @HPluckrose

      I would suggest that this is because the very notion of people having a ‘gender’, as used in the context of essays such as yours, is inherently incoherent and unstable.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      Avoid it then. It doesn't change the reality that some people are trans and that this is when gender identity doesn't match biological sex and this has both biological and social aspects

      3:23 PM - 22 Oct 2018
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