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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22

      Trans people can't and #WontBeErased by attempts to define them out of existence. Presidents, however, can have that label removed. You'll need to vote, reasonable & compassionate Americans.

      15 replies 12 retweets 75 likes
    2. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I understand the US government is going about defining man and woman based on a framework of biological sex. What alternatives should be used to not ‘erase' trans people that are coherent, material, objective and useful in law?

      4 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I'm not even sure what that question means. There's seldom a need to define the sex of someone in law and when there is, it usually comes down to some biological difference which can be accounted for in law.

      6 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    4. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      In the UK, sex is a protected characteristic that enables women, for example, to exclude men from certain protected spaced (prisons, rape crisis centres etc). Such protections require a defintion of what a man and a woman is. This is quite fundamental, no?

      1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      No, they don't. One can recognise the reality that trans people exist and that, in some areas, like sport and prisons, their rights and inclusion need to be considered in a class of their own. We wrote this about it.https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ …

      3 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    6. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Of course trans people exist, but I suspect their many experiences, motives and presentations do not enable a unified, useful defintion. On the other hand, you appear to not want to recognise the objective, material existence of women? I hope I am wrong.

      2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I sent you an essay. I recognise the objective material reality that biological sex is bimodal in teams of reproductive systems, yes, but also that gender comes from a variety of other biological aspects like brains, hormones, genetics etc.

      3 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    8. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      One of the problems I have reading such things is understanding what people mean by the central terms they use. I think we might agree what a ‘sex’ is. But hat is a ‘gender’?

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
      Replying to @lecanardnoir

      I probably can't explain that on Twitter. Particularly as people go one way or another on whether it includes a load of cognitive, psychological and behavioural stuff which is biological.

      3:05 PM - 22 Oct 2018
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        2. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I have never seen anyone explain what a ‘gender’ is. Everyone ducks out.

          3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @lecanardnoir

          Lots of people do with the extremes being radfems who say its a cultural construct to oppress women & we're identical psychologically really and essentialists saying its exactly the same as sex meaning that there are men's roles and women's roles.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir

          But it is a quite annoying and ambiguous term generally meant to describe the psychological, cognitive & behavioural bits as well as social stuff. Anything that isnt organs, essentially. Its not going anywhere tho. We've always recognised more than organs make us different.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. miszminska‏ @miszminska Oct 23
          Replying to @HPluckrose @lecanardnoir

          Men and women differ psychologically *ON AVERAGE*. Both sexes have a huge variety of personalities, preferences and modes of expression. It is *only* female biology that links all females together and it is *only* male biology that links all males together.

          2 replies 2 retweets 9 likes
        6. Andy Lewis‏ @lecanardnoir Oct 23
          Replying to @miszminska @HPluckrose

          Absolutely this. And as soon as you (for some reason) abandon this, the very concepts of sex, male, female etc become incoherent and impossible to objectively define. Why some take is path into erasure of sex and sexuality is boggling and I struggle to understand.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        7. Astrid‏ @DrinkingGinNow Oct 23
          Replying to @lecanardnoir @miszminska @HPluckrose

          It doesn’t mean that being transgender isn’t a valid thing, of course some people are trans and identity as the opposite sex they were born. But there has to be a solid definition of sex for there to be any coherence and peace!

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 23
          Replying to @DrinkingGinNow @miszminska

          There does but we might not know right now exactly how it works. One day we'll probably have it all mapped out re gonads and chromosomes and brains and hormones which are all sexed & be able to plot individuals on them.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Astrid‏ @DrinkingGinNow Oct 23
          Replying to @HPluckrose @miszminska

          Sex is indisputable. It’s already mapped out.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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