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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

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      I just accidentally quote tweeted a person I was having a disagreement with saying 'don't be this person' when I meant to quote tweet myself saying this: https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/685624693093699585?s=19 … Have apologised and deleted. I did not mean to single him out as a person not to be!

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      If I read your words this way, I can show why its wrong! Let me clarify my meaning. No, I really want to argue against what you didn't mean.
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      That approach to discussion annoys me. I understand liking to have a good argument. I am someone who enjoys them. But there is no point in arguing with something someone doesn't mean even if you can show their words to be plausibly interpreted that way. The author is not dead.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      I am not a fan of holding people to plausible or even literal interpretations of their words when they have clarified their meaning to be something else. People can misspeak or overstate or misrepresent their own view in haste or frustration.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      Or they can be speaking in a context they assume you to be aware of having been over the fine details previously. Insisting that they really did mean what you read them to mean rather than what they tell you they mean is pointless.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      Even if you think they really did mean what you thought they meant and are now backpedaling, in 9 cases out of 10, it's best to let them do that if your aim is to change their mind from the view you thought they had rather than be seen to have "won."

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      There is a certain type of person who seems to enjoy finding loopholes in a point with which to argue needlessly rather than engaging with what was clearly the point and these people are incredibly tiresome.

      2:52 PM - 20 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

          I first realised how common this was when Richard Dawkins tweeted that it was unacceptable to deny women the right to drive and 25 people replied "even if they've been convicted of dangerous or drunk driving." I have many ppl muted for it. I don't understand the psychology at all

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

          There must be some pleasure in taking a statement out of context and finding a way in which it doesn't apply or has an exception because so many people do it, but I can't imagine what it is or how it works.

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        2. Ben Smith  🌐‏ @curiouskiwicat Oct 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          They teach the "principle of charity" in 100-level philosophy classes: address the best possible version of your opponent's argument. Can't claim to do it consistently myself (who can?) but many people never seem to have even considered that something to aim for!

          1 reply 1 retweet 24 likes
        3. Ben Smith  🌐‏ @curiouskiwicat Oct 20
          Replying to @curiouskiwicat @HPluckrose

          It's not exactly incentivized on Twitter. Virality selects for and rewards exactly the kind of behaviour you're calling out: portray someone's tweet in precisely the most outrageous fashion, attach a sassy takedown and rake in the RTs!

          1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
        4. Ben Smith  🌐‏ @curiouskiwicat Oct 20
          Replying to @curiouskiwicat @HPluckrose

          It's not even "human nature", it's just maths, network amplification effects. I think this will continue until the selection mechanism (currently something like instant dopamine burst, irrespective of motive) is changed

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        1. Draugr Pasnak‏ @dougpasnak Oct 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It’s very popular with the frat boy philosophers Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Charlie Kirk et al. They routinely do violence to the meaning of even basic words in order to arrive at their otherwise unsupportable points. Nazis were left wing, Hitler was a Sanders socialist etc...

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