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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20

      OK, I need to have a thread about centrism coz I am being accused of it again in terms of doing 'both sides' stuff. I've said before why I don't think centrism (in the sense of taking a middle position on everything rather than finding your views somewhere near the middle) works.

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    2. D'Menshah Ka'nshur‏ @DNshur Oct 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      How can you argue for an evidence based epistemology and at the same time argue for non-discrimination?

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
      Replying to @DNshur

      By arguing for not discriminating by gender, race and sexuality specifically. It's fine to discriminate against people based on evidence that they are, eg not qualified for a certain job. Their gender, race or sexuality won't tell you that.

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    4. D'Menshah Ka'nshur‏ @DNshur Oct 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It will under certain circumstances, if the evidence is there- you can't prejudge it. I am not arguing for discrimination, only that your starting point is false and could be used against you.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
      Replying to @DNshur

      How is it false? I'm clearly not asking for people never to discriminate on the grounds of evidence.

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    6. D'Menshah Ka'nshur‏ @DNshur Oct 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But you don't know what that evidence is. And to what it might relate to. You cannot start from a position of waiting for the evidence and at the same time denying any possible relationship that evidence might suggest to people with shared characteristics. It's disingenuous.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
      Replying to @DNshur

      I don't know what you mean. Obviously, we can't evaluate on evidence if we don't know what it is. But I am talking about not discriminating on the grounds of race, gender or sexuality but on evidence of unsuitability.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose @DNshur

      We don't need to deny that there are different distributions of traits among different groups of people with shared characteristics. Much evidence that there is. I've argued this before on a panel supporting James Damore. But this doesn't justify discriminating against groups.

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DNshur

          If women only make up 20% of people with tech skills and interest, we can both acknowledge that there is a difference and still not discriminate against that 20% of women.

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