OK, I need to have a thread about centrism coz I am being accused of it again in terms of doing 'both sides' stuff. I've said before why I don't think centrism (in the sense of taking a middle position on everything rather than finding your views somewhere near the middle) works.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
How can you argue for an evidence based epistemology and at the same time argue for non-discrimination?
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Replying to @DNshur
By arguing for not discriminating by gender, race and sexuality specifically. It's fine to discriminate against people based on evidence that they are, eg not qualified for a certain job. Their gender, race or sexuality won't tell you that.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
It will under certain circumstances, if the evidence is there- you can't prejudge it. I am not arguing for discrimination, only that your starting point is false and could be used against you.
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Replying to @DNshur
How is it false? I'm clearly not asking for people never to discriminate on the grounds of evidence.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
But you don't know what that evidence is. And to what it might relate to. You cannot start from a position of waiting for the evidence and at the same time denying any possible relationship that evidence might suggest to people with shared characteristics. It's disingenuous.
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Replying to @DNshur
I don't know what you mean. Obviously, we can't evaluate on evidence if we don't know what it is. But I am talking about not discriminating on the grounds of race, gender or sexuality but on evidence of unsuitability.
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We don't need to deny that there are different distributions of traits among different groups of people with shared characteristics. Much evidence that there is. I've argued this before on a panel supporting James Damore. But this doesn't justify discriminating against groups.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @DNshur
If women only make up 20% of people with tech skills and interest, we can both acknowledge that there is a difference and still not discriminate against that 20% of women.
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