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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      A strange thing keeps happening. Me: We need to make gender studies rigorous, evidence-based & strive for objectivity and universities open to ideological diversity! 100 people: You're wrong because that isn't how they are! They're the opposite!

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      This isn't one person who has misread my tweet in haste. It happens repeatedly and on all kinds of subjects. There's nothing to be gained from pointing out that anyone arguing that a certain thing needs to be achieved must know that it hasn't already been achieved.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      The reasoning problem is clear on less ideologically & politically charged issues. We don't see: "We need to cure cancer" "You're wrong because cancer exists and kills people." There's a reason we don't see that. There are more layers going on here.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      Cancer is a straightforward bad and everyone who sees it this way and cares about it sees the same solution - to cure it. With things like grievance studies, feminism & religion, people who see a serious problem with them are divided on the solution - fix it or ban it.

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    5. Matthew Farrelly‏ @matthewfarrelly Oct 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If you criticised the methodology around say breast cancer research you would expect experts to take that seriously and not assume you’re attacking the need for cancer research. However I expect some lay people would struggle with the distinction.

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    6. Matthew Farrelly‏ @matthewfarrelly Oct 20
      Replying to @matthewfarrelly @HPluckrose

      The situation with grievance studies is a bit different because many people don’t believe that the “disease” (ie. that people are systematically disadvantaged by some aspect of there identity) is real. So grievance studies researchers are more defensive by habit.

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    7. Matthew Farrelly‏ @matthewfarrelly Oct 20
      Replying to @matthewfarrelly @HPluckrose

      @HPluckrose you seem to believe the the “disease” is real and worthy of research, albeit with stronger methodology but judging from many replies to your thread the grievance folk have good reason to be defensive. Many are using the hoax to intentionally throw out baby with BW

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
      Replying to @matthewfarrelly

      I am not talking about researchers in the fields of grievance studies & their criticism that we fed reactionary aims to prevent scholarship into gender, race and sexuality for social justice purposes but those reactionaries themselves who are angry that we don't want to do that.

      8:53 AM - 20 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose @matthewfarrelly

          I am never convinced by the argument that we should not address problems on our side because it gives ammo to the other side, whether this is a political side or an academic side or whatever. I think it is by getting our own house in order that we strengthen it & gain support.

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        3. Matthew Farrelly‏ @matthewfarrelly Oct 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yes I totally agree. The replies to your tweets show that. I can understand why GS are defensive but i agree they need to take on board “friendly” criticism. Closing ranks is ultimately destructive.

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