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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      A strange thing keeps happening. Me: We need to make gender studies rigorous, evidence-based & strive for objectivity and universities open to ideological diversity! 100 people: You're wrong because that isn't how they are! They're the opposite!

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      This isn't one person who has misread my tweet in haste. It happens repeatedly and on all kinds of subjects. There's nothing to be gained from pointing out that anyone arguing that a certain thing needs to be achieved must know that it hasn't already been achieved.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      The reasoning problem is clear on less ideologically & politically charged issues. We don't see: "We need to cure cancer" "You're wrong because cancer exists and kills people." There's a reason we don't see that. There are more layers going on here.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      Cancer is a straightforward bad and everyone who sees it this way and cares about it sees the same solution - to cure it. With things like grievance studies, feminism & religion, people who see a serious problem with them are divided on the solution - fix it or ban it.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      Those who want to fix a problem within scholarship/activism/a religion are very likely to be perceived by those who want to ban the scholarship/activism/religion or at least condemn it utterly as having failed to understand the seriousness of the problem.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 19

      Therefore, they are likely to respond to "There is a serious problem happening right now that we must fix" with "No, because its a serious problem and happening right now. Let me explain the problem to you and how serious it is." Recognising this helps cut through the disconnect

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        2. izrick‏ @izricklyn Oct 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          “These departments can continue to do what they want to do, but outside of the university system,” @ConceptualJames https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17951492/grievance-studies-sokal-squared-hoax … So are you a fixer and James a banner? Is this a discussion you have had?pic.twitter.com/2q38q0hA8t

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        3. Sakti Fair‏ @Sakti_Fair Oct 20
          Replying to @izricklyn @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

          I think you may have taken this out of context a little. I would rather get my understanding from the authors, reading their article on @AreoMagazine with help you understand what they were actually saying.

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        4. izrick‏ @izricklyn Oct 20
          Replying to @Sakti_Fair @HPluckrose and

          However they my equivocate, they are part of a reactionary movement which wants the legacy of critical theory, poststructuralism, and continental thinking in general out of the universities by whatever means, save a rigorous authentic engagement with these schools of thought.

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        5. Jeremy Spradlin‏ @jkspradlin Oct 20
          Replying to @izricklyn @Sakti_Fair and

          How was this not a rigorous engagement with these thoughts?

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        6. izrick‏ @izricklyn Oct 21
          Replying to @jkspradlin @Sakti_Fair and

          It was certainly fairly involved, and getting these paper published was an impressive bit of trolling involving some real fermiliarity of it's subject, but I don't think their mimetic accomplishments constitute "engagement".

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        7. izrick‏ @izricklyn Oct 21
          Replying to @izricklyn @jkspradlin and

          To reproduce is not to understand hence the expression "dumb as a painter", the student who tells their teacher exactly what they want to hear, the analysand who resists the analysis by arriving at the truth too quickly.

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        8. izrick‏ @izricklyn Oct 21
          Replying to @izricklyn @jkspradlin and

          They have criticised their subject from outside it, made a fixed image of it and presented to be ridiculed by the pöbel's common sense. They have not critiqued it, unlike the cutting edge of academia has done for the past two decades, efforts they seem (wilfully?) oblivious to.

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        9. Jeremy Spradlin‏ @jkspradlin Oct 21
          Replying to @izricklyn @Sakti_Fair and

          They wrote and published 7 papers in prominent journals within a year. I don’t think it’s fair to say they criticized the subject from outside it. They simply showed that the fields themselves are not being held to rigorous review and appear to be ideologically driven.

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        1. Poseidonc12‏ @poseidonc12 Oct 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I’m pretty sure that Sandra Harding classifies objectivity as “Male Bias”. It’s going to be very difficult to get Feminist epistemology out of student’s heads & replace it with what they have been told isn’t really objective at all, but just male biased outcomes.

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        1. Carl Greenwood‏ @CarlGreenwood12 Oct 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          The fact that you have to reword your statement to gain any traction is the perfect litmus test as to why there is a problem in the first place.

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