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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted David J. Ley PhD

      Infidelity is a legitimate complaint because it requires having made an agreement to be exclusive and then breaking it. This is disloyalty and a betrayal of trust. Someone who does not want to be in an exclusive relationship should not pretend they do but be honest. However...https://twitter.com/DrDavidLey/status/1052746552236621825 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      David J. Ley PhDVerified account @DrDavidLey
      So now, masturbation to #porn or sexual infidelity qualify as “abuse”? This is offensive to all victims of abuse and sexual violence. https://www.btr.org/is-pornography-use-abusive-to-your-spouse/ …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

      ...(and sorry to be crude here) if someone wants a quick wank, this is absolutely no-one else's business, not even the partner's. Obv, if he is doing this to the exclusion of having a good sex-life with his partner, there could well be a problem and a conversation needed.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

      But if she is not there, not in mood or he just doesn't feel like having sex right then but just a quick wank before going to sleep or something, this is not something he should be criticised for. Especially as men often have higher sex drives than women.(Works other way too tho)

      3 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

      This seems abusively controlling. I found this chilling: "Another way of saying it is having a secret life or world while you are in a relationship or a family is a form of abuse." No, it isn't. Expect your partner to have parts of him or herself just for him or herself.

      4:28 PM - 18 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          I hate the idea that to be in a relationship is to be owned body and 'soul' by someone else and never again having the right to private thoughts, feelings or activities. I'm not talking about deception, such as cheating which breaks an agreement many couples want. Outside that.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          I have always appreciated that my husband always accepted my need to spend much of my time inside my own head. Of course, I am usually thinking about postmodernism, critical theory, feminism & politics; thoughts he'd really rather I didn't share with him anyway. XD

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          But other friends, creative types, have whole fantasy worlds they have created which are just for them. We all have the right to an internal world, whether intellectual, artistic, erotic or whatever. This doesn't end when we have relationships.

          5 replies 4 retweets 39 likes
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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          It's like this nonsense with 'microcheating' where you're not allowed to be friends with your ex or DM someone of the opposite sex to talk about shared interests. (Don't know how this works for same sex couples but I suspect it's mostly a hetero thing). It feels so regressive.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          It feels like trust - emotional trust that your relationship is sound & your partner is with you because they love you and want to spend their life with you - is completely absent in people who think like this.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 18

          That's what will destroy your relationship, not your partner masturbating, watching porn, having friends of both sexes or having thoughts and feelings and interests they don't share with you.

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        2. Loki‏ @Lowkey1324 Oct 18
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          What if your partner is secretly working as a phone sex operator or doing Skype sessions for money? Does that rise to a different level?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Smartassicus‏ @Smartassicus Oct 18
          Replying to @Lowkey1324 @HPluckrose

          Did you miss the part where she mentioned established boundaries in a relationship? If it violated boundaries set, it is unethical.

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        5. Loki‏ @Lowkey1324 Oct 18
          Replying to @Lowkey1324 @Smartassicus @HPluckrose

          Most people don’t sit down and say, “BTW, you can’t do any sex work on the side.” Things like that are usually implicit.

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        6. Smartassicus‏ @Smartassicus Oct 18
          Replying to @Lowkey1324 @HPluckrose

          The first tweet specifically states "agreement to be exclusive." Clearly sex work would fall under that unless discussed.

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        7. Loki‏ @Lowkey1324 Oct 18
          Replying to @Smartassicus @HPluckrose

          Most people don’t explicitly state what exclusivity entails. Anyway, I’m not interested in your opinion so buzz off.

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