I see this criticism as disingenuous Christian-based pagan panic. 1/
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In spite of our supposed separation of church and state, it is totally normal for politicians to invite faith groups to their events, to hold meetings w/ faith leaders, and to pray at houses of worship in their capacity as politicians or w/ faith leaders on government property.2/
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I doubt that when Republican politicians invite fringe Christian groups that the right-leaning media reports on it in the manner that they are reporting on Sinema. 3/
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I'm not having a go at Andy and I agree it's nuts. I'm just pointing out that it's not objectively more nuts than Christian singing, praying, communion etc or Muslim bowing at the floor with your bum in the air or any number of Jewish rituals including bowing repeatedly at walls.
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Humans are nuts. I include myself among them as I have a number of rituals of my own although none of them are religious and when I had OCD, they got diagnosed as nuts.
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Rituals can certainly be taken to an extreme but given their prevalence, is it fair to say that all rituals make humans nuts? It seems to just be human nature of different flavors.
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Yes. That's what I meant. As we define what is nuts as what diverges from normal human behaviour, we are not nuts. But if we try to look at ourselves objectively, I think we can see some thoroughly irrational behaviour in our species.
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I think maybe the more 'secular' point is not that she chose a belief system that people regard as weird, because all religions have their detractors. It's that the one she did choose is so out of tune with the average voter as to make her look like a loon.
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Indeed. That's why it's worth mentioning that this perception is thoroughly culturally and historically constructed and in other times and places, this has seemed perfectly normal & respectable. Also, it calls to common human needs we nearly all seem to have.
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And given that elections are truly popularity contest, a politician's beliefs are judged by that same polity. And the somewhat opposing desires to be in control of ones environment, yet transcending it somewhat, seem to be universal needs. But some people are just cray cray
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Indeed but I'm not sure the pagans are crazier than you lot. :-p *begins complicated tea-making ritual*
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NB: never stated the antecedent. That's because I know we ARE all crazy. (again see what I just did there? Another ambiguous antecedent!) Keep guessing tea-pot reader.
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IDK, rituals, Abrahamic or otherwise, are not all the same and serve a particular purpose; they may appear bizarre but are supported by the underlying belief system. The problem with dismissing them wholesale, as with anything, is not understanding their grounds in the 1st place
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Indeed but it is largely arbitrary - a result of how history has played out that American society regards Christian prayers and raising of hands as perfectly normal and pagan singing and spinning as nuts.
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Ooooh, I see. Didn't get that at first. We don't that stuff up here in Canada.
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* Don't have. Or if we do, we don't talk about it. Nobody cares.
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"Involved" being "she invited this group (among others) to an anti-war rally." Simple ragebait.
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