Isn't it more complex than that? Didn't radfems consider that gender stereotypes & roles were socially constructed (ie Beauvoir's argument) by the patriarchy (as such, detrimentally to women & to benefit men)? Their issue seems 2 b that it went one step further no?
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Replying to @Jovangnr @MetaRantz and
Well, yes. Do you think that conflicts with what I said?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz and
Well, they already believe that categories of men and woman are socially constructed. What the issue seems to be is that they don't want to share victimhood, ie their shot went farther away than what they expected...
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Replying to @Jovangnr @HPluckrose and
Womanhood is defined by society to br be the opposite of men. The postmodernist position logically follows that premise, they just lacked the foresight to see the outcome
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Replying to @Jovangnr @MetaRantz and
Radfems have never been postmodernists. They are materialists.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz and
Well, I'm wary to give them the credit of caring fo consistency. As I said, Beauvoir's argument was about the social construction of gender. It seems to me the argument was to serve as a bludgeon, not to accurately describe the dynamics involved
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Replying to @Jovangnr @MetaRantz and
I don't know what you mean. Radfems do consistently believe gender is a cultural construct but biological sex is real. That's what the whole war between the terfs and the trans activists is about.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz and
They don't believe a man can take the gender roles, stereotypes and norms of a woman, how does this follow from Beauvoir's argument?
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Replying to @Jovangnr @HPluckrose and
Seems to me they ultimately believe that gender is indeed essentially tied to sex, they just wanted to construct an argument where they could change the power balance in society. I'm saying I suspect the argument was pragmatic, not earnest. 1/2
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Replying to @Jovangnr @HPluckrose and
The same for postmodernists, they just go a step further in the strategy. The arguments seem carefully drafted to undermine and then replace it with what's convenient. I might just be excessively cynic though 2/2
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They go all over the place.
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