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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 17

    The Marxists are very happy with me for having attacked postmodernism in grievance studies but concerned that I am still not a Marxist. I am now being sent much reading on how overcoming postmodernism should lead society to embracing socialism.

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 17

        I like Marxists much better than postmodernists. They tend to be polite & consider me misguided rather than evil & they make arguments. However, they also tend to set enormous amounts of homework before you can engage them on their terms & I do not have the interest in economics.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 17

        I would really like them to engage the postmodernists more visibly but they generally feel there is little point in this as they are not using reasoned arguments, rarely address class & know very little about economics. They're probably right but I still wish they would.

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      1. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

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      2. Dionysius the Areopagite‏ @fishbob_pantsov Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        at least Postmodernism didn't kill tens of Millions of people

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      3.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear Oct 17
        Replying to @fishbob_pantsov @HPluckrose

        Insofar as it's nihilism, it's killing them with alcohol and heroin

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      4. Dionysius the Areopagite‏ @fishbob_pantsov Oct 17
        Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @HPluckrose

        you're correct but nihilists don't come together in mobs to slaughter the bourgoisie

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      5.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear Oct 17
        Replying to @fishbob_pantsov @HPluckrose

        It's hard to get them to do shit, really 😋

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      1. Mark Schirmer‏ @MarkSchirmer4 Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Send them Popper's "The Poverty of Historicism."

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      2. Jieriomka‏ @Jieriomka Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In my experience there plenty of people who believe both in marxism and identity politics.

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      3. Vincent Tijms‏ @vtijms Oct 18
        Replying to @Jieriomka @HPluckrose

        That's certainly possible, but it's hard to subscribe to the grand narrative of marxism and simultaneously be a postmodernist. Put differently, not all identity politics is postmodern.

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      4. Jieriomka‏ @Jieriomka Oct 18
        Replying to @vtijms @HPluckrose

        You're probably right. I was just wondering who "The Marxists" were. @HPluckrose you say elsewhere that you are not really interested in Marxism (or economics) so how do you define true Marxism?

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      5. Jieriomka‏ @Jieriomka Oct 21
        Replying to @Jieriomka @vtijms @HPluckrose

        @HPluckrose It was a serious question...

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      1. Guy Mitchell‏ @guymit Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Delighted to hear it! 😂😂😂

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      1. Becoming Other‏ @becomeother Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism is correct in its critique of Marxism, and Marxism is correct in its critique of postmodernism. Both are correct in their critique of centrists and vice versa. Ideologies have to keep the others in check.

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      1. MonkeyAnimator‏ @MonkeyAnimator Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        lol....

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      2. Richard McEvoy‏ @GodsBeagle Oct 17
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism is the last blast of late capitalism.

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      3. 1st AmEskimo Hut‏ @eskimohut2012 Oct 18
        Replying to @GodsBeagle @HPluckrose

        How? The point of capitalism is making things work. That is antithetical to postmodernism.

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      4. Richard McEvoy‏ @GodsBeagle Oct 18
        Replying to @eskimohut2012 @HPluckrose

        Postmodernism - when you are so rich you don't need to worry about things working for other people.

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      1. Richard Dickerson‏ @SlothSamurai Oct 18
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They're all driven by resentment...

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      1. Pirate Prentice‏ @tripledonkey Oct 18
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They'll be plenty of time for getting your homework done at Re-Education camp. If you fail though, its off to the Cobalt mines for you!

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