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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 14

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted George Henderson

    There is an argument for it but it is Marxist philosophy about culture. (We published one - https://areomagazine.com/2018/08/11/who-is-afraid-of-cultural-marxism-what-the-frankfurt-school-can-still-teach-us/ …) It's not what is accused of being 'Cultural Marxism' which is actually a mix of postmodernism, identity studies & identity politics & not much to do with Marxism.https://twitter.com/puddleg/status/1051605544962670592 …

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    George Henderson @puddleg
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    It doesn't take a minute's search to confirm that Cultural Marxism is a real discipline, and not some alt-right straw man. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20007001?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents …
    4:03 PM - 14 Oct 2018
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    • The.Scholarly.Duluthian Alvaro Gregori Michael Smith Thomas Toscani [LTC] A .T. Nong WickedWitch John Тимофте ☭ Xavier Turix
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      2. George Henderson‏ @puddleg Oct 14
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        George Henderson Retweeted George Henderson

        I would say that Marx's linguistic fetishization of victimhood, as highlighted by Edmund Wilson in To The Finland Station, informs all these fields, justifying the CM rubric.https://twitter.com/puddleg/status/1029516690969702402 …

        George Henderson added,

        George Henderson @puddleg
        Karl Marx gave us an economic theory, but also, as Edmund Wilson showed in his 1940 history of ideas To The Finland Station, coined a sado-masochistic vocabulary to promote it. This linguistic fetishization of victimhood is the part of Marx's legacy that has endured and grown. pic.twitter.com/eoSgsWXBfx
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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 14
        Replying to @puddleg

        Make links if you want. Linguistics. Oppressed classes. False consciousness. Revolutionary zeal. That can be an interesting academic project. But if you want to address the SocJus activism problem, you'll need to understand SocJus scholarship which calls on postmodernism.

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      2. Artifact‏ @PrismOfReality Oct 14
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Except for the oppressed/opresor binarism that does ‘t come from any of the frameworks that you mentioned. That seems to come from Marxism, or. As you pointed out before from older ancestors of Marxism. But you list is incomplete without a source for that.

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      3. whitelikeheaven‏ @whitelikeheaven Oct 15
        Replying to @PrismOfReality @HPluckrose

        Defining Marxism as simply oppressed vs oppressor ignores the social economic basis of the groups in conflict/the tensions existing between classes. The Haitian revolution for example had little to do with Marxism.

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      4. Artifact‏ @PrismOfReality Oct 15
        Replying to @whitelikeheaven @HPluckrose

        I’m convinced now that it isn’t Marxism. The issue is that so many Marxist profs buy into PoMo and critical studies, and use O/O arguments. It’s easy to conflate the two. Critical studies is a good name for a group of disciplines. But we need a name for the cocktail of theories.

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      1. Eric Hamell‏ @EricHamell Oct 14
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not only is it not Marxism. It's epistemologically anti-Marxist, and many on the socialist Left think it was encouraged by capital to replace Marxism in the academy, where it lets people think they're still radical while they've totally abandoned class struggle.

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      1. Arend-Jan‏ @kromst Oct 14
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        You may find this entertaining: https://ccs.yale.edu/strong-program pic.twitter.com/qiPhxBryIe

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