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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13

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      And my position was that it is not. Two other panellists also said it is a confused myth and the fourth said it is fairly meaningless but if there is such a thing he is one & talked about Marxist cultural philosophy in relation to consumerism.https://twitter.com/_Saeen_/status/1051158114655985677 …

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      Saeen @_Saeen_
      Helen Pluckrose, one of the academics involved in the recent ‘Sokal Squared’ hoax, is at an event discussing if 'Cultural Marxism', a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory, is actually real. pic.twitter.com/XvMGKp63yi
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13

      I don't know if the term "Cultural Marxism" is still used in antisemitic conspiracy theories but its not the common meaning. The common meaning now is a confusion of Marxism with postmodernism, identity studies and identity politics. I tried to untangle it today.

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        2. Xavier Trapnel‏ @XavierTrapnel Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Isn't this just confusing 'cultural marxism' which seems like a reasonable descriptive term for critical theory, albeit one often used by the far-right, and 'cultural bolshevism' which was the nazi term for artistic modernism?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
          Replying to @XavierTrapnel

          Yes, except it isn't a reasonable term because critical theory now is largely postmodern rather than Marxist and being able to differentiate between them is essential for arguing with it.

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        4. Xavier Trapnel‏ @XavierTrapnel Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          oh, i just assumed critical theory = frankfurt school

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
          Replying to @XavierTrapnel

          It's potentially confusing. Frankfurt School = Critical Theory (Marxist method) Postmodernism = Theory (relativist, constructivist bletherings) Grievance studies = critical theory (PoMo theory which is critical of perceived power structures.)

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        6. Lindsey Sharratt‏ @LindseySharratt Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose @XavierTrapnel

          I appreciate you elucidating that; I still equate "cultural Marxism" to critical theory. It's hard to debate with people who believe everything is a construction and reject actual facts/knowledge, which doesn't help fact-finding! Would love to see the panel debate; is it online?

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
          Replying to @LindseySharratt @XavierTrapnel

          It might be soon. I will write it up in more detail anyway.

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        2. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'd seriously advise not engage Saeen directly. Partly because he is a professional smear merchant & partly because he's blocked so many people almost no one will see your quote tweets. Just screenshot instead & don't tag him.

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        3. Steve Reilly‏ @StevenReilly20 Oct 13
          Replying to @IonaItalia @HPluckrose

          Heh, I had to use incognito to see the tweet since he blocked me. But wouldn't the Frankfurt School be cultural Marxists? I know they're mainly Jewish, but it's not anti-Semitic to say that people who study culture through Marxism are cultural Marxists.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
          Replying to @StevenReilly20 @IonaItalia

          That is the one definition that makes sense. Frankfurt School addressing culture. The fourth panellist did this and @MattPolProf has done so. It is not how it is used in popular culture tho.

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        5. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose @StevenReilly20 and

          Noted elsewhere: "Cultural Marxism" has had an entry (by Doug Kellner, UCLA) in the Encyclopedia of Social Theory since 2004 Whether or not its definition is consistent w/ common-usage, it at least shows the term has some legit academic provenance https://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/essays/culturalmarxism.pdf?origin=publication_detail …pic.twitter.com/AvzljEbmVt

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        6. Matt McManus‏ @MattPolProf Oct 13
          Replying to @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose and

          Yes. Generally I use the term to refer to the Frankfurt school and a host of other thinkers who operated within the same broad theoretical paradigm.

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        2. Wintermute‏ @colugos Oct 14
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Is there audio we can listen to?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 14
          Replying to @colugos

          Not yet.

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        2. Erik Wedin (LiberalKonservativ)‏ @Aktivarum Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I have followed this debate. The term Cultural Marxism used to mean what it sounds like. A mix up of the financial ideas of marxism but aimed towards culture - not economy. We might as well call it "Planned Culture". Instead of people calculating what prices are supposed to be>

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        3. Erik Wedin (LiberalKonservativ)‏ @Aktivarum Oct 13
          Replying to @Aktivarum @HPluckrose

          <its is about people calculating (theory) what the culture is supposed to be like. And the alternative (our normal culture) would be called a market culture - culture run by the needs of its members. Not by arbitrary rules that an elite priesthood make by religious decree.

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        1. Duncan Kinney‏ @duncankinney Oct 14
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          “Cultural Marxism” has always been an anti-Semitic dog whistle. Come on.

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        1. Matt McManus‏ @MattPolProf Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Thank you for doing that :)

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        1. Christopher Smith‏ @chrylis Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          If you have not run across them already, you may be interested in various discussions over at ESR's blog (from a decidedly non-right Semitic-friendly perspective).http://esr.ibiblio.org 

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        1. Armstrong and Getty‏ @AandGShow Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And good for you, Helen! Please don’t take heed of the haters. They have vitriol, aplenty but little else. JG

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        1. Teddybloat‏ @Teddybloat1 Oct 13
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          When in some doubt, smear. When in complete doubt, invoke the Nazis, then smear. Never allow good faith, always attempt to assign bad intentions Its an ugly way of shutting down debate, criticism and genuine academic endevour

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