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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted John David Ebert

    What if people could read postmodernism, understand it and still not think it worthwhile? So fed up with this refusal to accept that informed disagreement can exist. I get it from theologians too. It just ends conversation.https://twitter.com/johndavidebert/status/1051197804004040705 …

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    John David Ebert @johndavidebert
    Replying to @KevinShau @PagliaQuotes
    You might've read them but you didn't understand them. If you had then you'd be aware of their applicability to all sorts of things. I've spent decades writing books applying their ideas to very concrete things: books, films, events, etc.
    1:39 PM - 13 Oct 2018
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      2. Tony Tost‏ @tonytost Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        While doing my Ph.D. in English at Duke, I jumped into post-modernism in good faith, & came out the other side w/ inclinations similar to yours. I think it's hard for postmodern folks to shake the meta-narrative that their position is some kind of final evolutionary form.

        4 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
      3. Tony Tost‏ @tonytost Oct 13
        Replying to @tonytost @HPluckrose

        Because they've internalized a narrative where there is this continuous linear progression to art & thought, one can only counter the post-modern position if one is retrograde & not properly evolved. There's no tether to anything other than this narrative.

        7 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
      4. Wild Kill Wolfman‏ @WildBillWellman Oct 13
        Replying to @tonytost @HPluckrose

        Post modernism for me always seemed to be the philosophical equivalence to evolutionary psychology.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tony Tost‏ @tonytost Oct 13
        Replying to @WildBillWellman @HPluckrose

        Unfortunately, I don't know enough about evolutionary psychology to grasp the comparison.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 14
        Replying to @tonytost @WildBillWellman

        I don't think there is one. Our psychology did evolve whether you believe that or not. Evolutionary psychology can be, and usually is, done well by evolutionary psychologists who are cautious about the significance of their findings which are based in empirical studies.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Wild Kill Wolfman‏ @WildBillWellman Oct 14
        Replying to @HPluckrose @tonytost

        Except there is numerous criticism towards evolutionary psychology for presenting many theories that can't be properly tested and not been empirically collaborated. EP suffered from too many looking at it as the answer to every question. Chomsky has a pretty good criticism of it

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 14
        Replying to @WildBillWellman @tonytost

        That's why they're hypotheses. Evo psych can show certain things to exist and hypothesise about why.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Wild Kill Wolfman‏ @WildBillWellman Oct 14
        Replying to @HPluckrose @tonytost

        "You find that people cooperate, you say, 'Yeah, that contributes to their genes' perpetuating.' You find that they fight, you say, ‘Sure, that’s obvious, because it means that their genes perpetuate and not somebody else's..."

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      2. John David Ebert‏ @johndavidebert Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If they truly understand, they might disagree with it, but the thing is: I've never read a book by any thinker who didn't have something useful to contribute. They all have something useful to contribute and dismissing others just cause they disagree with you gets you nowhere.

        6 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
        Replying to @johndavidebert

        Really? Wow. That's a huge claim. But I'm glad you agree that dismissing others because they disagree with you is a bad idea. It didn't look like you did.

        0 replies 2 retweets 51 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. JohnNada77‏ @JNada77 Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        changed anyone's mind yet Helen ?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
        Replying to @JNada77

        On what? When? I gave a talk today on Cultural Marxism and two people said they'd changed their opinion on it as a result. This happens a lot. I also change my mind regularly.

        2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      4. JohnNada77‏ @JNada77 Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Cultural Marxism is not a thing anybody who thinks it is is a clown

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 13
        Replying to @JNada77

        That was my argument. Not the clown bit coz I am more charitable.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. JohnNada77‏ @JNada77 Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        so you were saying the 'Cultural Marxism' conspiracy trope is just that = garbage ????

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. JohnNada77‏ @JNada77 Oct 13
        Replying to @JNada77 @HPluckrose

        ok - the way it was written didn't make that clear - Fair play

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Mark Wallace‏Verified account @wallaceme Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        “I’ve spent decades writing books on this so it simply can’t be a load of balls” is a pretty epic exposition of the sunk costs fallacy.

        1 reply 12 retweets 81 likes
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      2. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia Oct 13
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        How are you still so coherent after lots of wine?

        5 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
      3. Brad Denniston‏ @BACDenniston Oct 13
        Replying to @IonaItalia @HPluckrose

        In vino veritas. In more vino is more veritas 😉

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