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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Oct 11

      Barry Purcell Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      The problem is one of categories. You could regard rape as an extremely violent crime like a murder or a stabbing, or you could see it as a special category on its own.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1050228568628842496 …

      Barry Purcell added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      I don't think this is true. There is some evidence that men actually evaluate situations for potential violence more than women & that they read hostility in other men more than women do. They also have to engage in violence more than women do coz more likely to be attacked. https://twitter.com/kaylin08850/status/1050227985893220352 …
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 11
      Replying to @solo1y

      I think we should see it as one of its own generally but the claim here is that women have reason to feel fear when they are out on a dark street alone and they encounter a man but men don't and never have to think about it. That is clearly false and many men have said so.

      12:53 PM - 11 Oct 2018
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        2. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Oct 11
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yes. My point is that I think this whole area is a problem of categories. If you regard rape as a violent crime like a murder, then the "men also fear violence" argument will make a lot more sense to you. If not, it may appear ridiculous, almost insulting.

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        3. Stephen Rowe‏ @StephenRowe0 Oct 11
          Replying to @solo1y @HPluckrose

          The problem isn't because of the categories, it's how a particular set of categories with an inherently gendered component is cherry-picked out of violent crime categories to support the narrative. It's focused on because it's a crime committed by men*.

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        4. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Oct 11
          Replying to @StephenRowe0 @HPluckrose

          You've just demonstrated why it is, in fact, a problem of categories...

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        5. Stephen Rowe‏ @StephenRowe0 Oct 11
          Replying to @solo1y @HPluckrose

          Repeating that phrase isn't making it more true. You haven't actually described what you mean, and it's even less clear now. Can you describe what this problem is, and why it's a problem?

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        6. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Oct 11
          Replying to @StephenRowe0 @HPluckrose

          I've described it as simply as I can, directly in response to Helen's tweet. Which part of it is causing the confusion?

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        7. Stephen Rowe‏ @StephenRowe0 Oct 11
          Replying to @solo1y @HPluckrose

          I think the issue is that redefining categories doesn't make the problem go away, as you seem to be implying. The other issue being that you can't simply come up with a definition and expect everyone to buy into it. So...I'm not sure what your point is.

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        8. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Oct 11
          Replying to @StephenRowe0 @HPluckrose

          I don't think it makes the problem go away. I think it explains what's going on and why some people seem to have a harder time with this than others. Thankfully, it's not a problem of definitions for the reasons you've stated. It's of *categories*.

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        9. Stephen Rowe‏ @StephenRowe0 Oct 11
          Replying to @solo1y @HPluckrose

          Are you trying to say this is a category error? If so, that's the bit that isn't at all clear.

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