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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted James Lindsay

    It seems so difficult for people to understand that someone criticising a problem on one political side isn't necessarily from the other side. Partisanship is the norm now. Criticise Trump? You must be left-wing. Criticise SocJus scholarship? You must be right-wing. Worrying.https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1050179076902842369 …

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    James Lindsay @ConceptualJames
    I don't recall ever being on the right. We've been quite clear that we aren't. @washingtonpost, what's this? pic.twitter.com/yixTNNDFZ6
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    • TFPSearcher Neowarden #3260 Brian Adams DankulaHunter_077 KhaosByDesign Chris Maloney Ivan Denisovich Shukhov 🎅 #националист James Lindsay KK
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      2. April Harding‏ @april_harding Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The mainstream media outlets like WaPo consistently present anyone who criticizes the left as right-wing, even when this is patently false. Hell, you, James & Peter are lucky they didn’t go for “far right”.

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      2. Galen Moran‏ @OnYouLikeGlue Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose @peterboghossian

        As someone who loves reading/listening to disagreements, it’s hard to take many of the criticisms of your project seriously when I see your intentions and/or political affiliations mischaracterized so easily.

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      2. KhaosByDesign‏ @KhaosByDesignUK Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Some people don't realize that political views are a spectrum and not just hard left, hard right and nothing in between. Or that you can disagree with and criticize your own side.

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      3. Richard Heathfield  🇬🇧‏ @rjheathfield Oct 10
        Replying to @KhaosByDesignUK @HPluckrose

        Actually, political views are more like a phase space. Every political issue can be seen as a dimension (although not always a spectrum, as views sometimes *are* bi-modal, with very little support for points-between - eg pro/anti-abortion). First approx: http://politicalcompass.org 

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      4. Richard Heathfield  🇬🇧‏ @rjheathfield Oct 10
        Replying to @rjheathfield @KhaosByDesignUK @HPluckrose

        I have been described as a leftie by the right and "far right" by the left. But the last time I took the politicalcompass test, I discovered I was slap bang in the middle (which surprised me). In the extra dimension offered, I was libertarian-leaning.

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      5. KhaosByDesign‏ @KhaosByDesignUK Oct 10
        Replying to @rjheathfield @HPluckrose

        Same, I've considered myself a liberal for years but over the last year or so I've questioned a lot & have been called Alt-right, misogynist & racist by people I thought I was with. I took that test too & I'm libertarian-left but much closer to the center than I'd have thought.

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      1. Your Culture‏ @JoelJHughes Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Most people that criticize the "leftist" kind of left are *intelligent* liberals who can still think independently, who are still capable of critical thinking & are rightfully horrified & just desperately trying to effect change in the indoctrinated non thinking leftist masses.

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      1. Mark Schipper‏ @MyTimesProse Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It’s awful. Not only that, but if you offer specific praise on one side, it’s immediately assumed you’re all in on every utterance & position. Rather than a more likely reality: you like some of what you hear, are indifferent to other things, & disagree with what’s left. No pun.

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      1. Mitch Little Shop of Horrors‏ @jmitchelllittle Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This is what it feels like for a conservative to criticize *anything* on its merits. Sorry for your experience.

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      2. M_Methuselah‏ @M_Methuselah Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        M_Methuselah Retweeted M_Methuselah

        I want to move away from political labels, specifically because they only seem to be used prescriptively, both as shields and cudgels.https://twitter.com/M_Methuselah/status/1050182206184988678 …

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        M_Methuselah @M_Methuselah
        You know what? I think that I'm finally done with political labels. They might still be useful for describing broad principles and the political landscape itself, but they've far, far outlived their usefulness when it comes to people.
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      1. The Death of the Left‏ @DOL2019 Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's more multipolar now. Criticise Stuart Hall and you're a racist. Criticise Judith Butler and you're a homophobic binary whatever. Criticise Gloria Steinem and you're a sexist. Criticise Netanyahu and you're an anti-Semite. Hours of fun.

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      1. Gijs van Dam‏ @gijswijs Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        For all the endless coalition negotiations, a multi-party political system still seems to be preferable. It prevents the us vs them reflex, at least partly.

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      1. Brian Adams‏ @bdadams13 Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Agreed. People expect total agreement and absolute loyalty on every single issue, no matter how big or small. In the end, nobody passes purity tests.

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      1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Also "rigorous journals proved all too willing to accept any nonsense that aligned with their obsessions" and "no truth gathered" make zero sense in the same paragraph because that first quote entails a "truth." In fact it's the exact truth the project was intended to expose.

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      1. Neowarden #3260‏ @Neothanos Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Unfortunally its typical at this point, Its not new but it intesified too much.

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