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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Berny Belvedere‏ @bernybelvedere Oct 10
      Replying to @bernybelvedere @willwilkinson and

      This is why, for example, Glock in his book on analytic philosophy suggests defeating "postmodernism" might well be an analytic pursuit. This is why, for example, Van Inwagen's intro to metaphysics speaks of "anti-realism" as though it's philosophically illegitimate. In a survey!

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    2. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @bernybelvedere @HPluckrose and

      van Inwagen is a dogmatic theist! Analytic philosophy is perhaps the most "postmodern" of all fields, but it's not especially problematic because it's profoundly rigorous, and it's hard to see the practical upshot of the choice between realist and anti-realist vocabularies.

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    3. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      Methodologically the real issue isn't the metaphysics of truth and reference, it's standards of permissible inference.

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    4. Berny Belvedere‏ @bernybelvedere Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @HPluckrose and

      I'd expand "standards" to include more than inference, but this is basically right on! Which is why your appeal to the intellectual durability of "constructivism" is misleading: two separate disciplines can house "constructivisms" enabled by wildly divergent inferential standards

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    5. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @bernybelvedere @HPluckrose and

      Sure. But I don't think they see the extent to which their basic critique is both too narrow and too broad. For example, a weaker version of this is basically the received view in a great deal *realist* philosophy of science.pic.twitter.com/f9oCcJ0TF6

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      Inquiry is a historical, culturally embedded social enterprise, our categories reflect inherited assumptions and power relations, and so our scientific theorizing does too. The upshot is that we'll do BAD SCIENCE if we don't attend to this source of bias.

      2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    7. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      That's a mundane, accurate, realist position. I think they're taking too little care in failing to note that much "grievance studies" work reflects this view, rather than a maximally radical "there is nothing outside the conceptual scheme" view.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    8. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      Their critique thus too easily blurs into a challenge to the credibility of any work that relies on an OBJECTIVE fact about the social world--that our lives, conceptual schemes, and moral attitudes have been shaped by systemic, coercively enforced historical inequalities.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      I think there's been some pretty serious motte-and-bailey-ing in discussion of the hoax. It's broadly taken to undermine "PC" scholarship generally, and when you say that it doesn't do that, there's retreat to a more defensible specific claim that isn't very significant.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 Oct 10
      Replying to @willwilkinson @bernybelvedere and

      This is my biggest gripe - on paper (screen?) it's one thing, on Twitter and in media outlets, it's an entirely different thing. It *has to* shapeshift - eg, now 'grievance studies' means a methodology, whereas in the piece it's 'these fields'. https://ketanjoshi.co/2018/10/06/the-gender-studies-fakery-doesnt-help-it-hinders-and-its-meant-to/ …pic.twitter.com/El9Scn45M3

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @willwilkinson and

      You've actually screenshotted the part which describes the methodology. How is this not clear? We are talking about subdisciplines that use it. It doesn't crop up randomly but is confined to identity studies. This is not to say that identity cannot be studied rigorously.

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        2. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 Oct 10
          Replying to @HPluckrose @willwilkinson and

          I reckon that bit'd read differently if you were studying a methodology or an attitude that seeps, at differing degrees, into a range of fields. Above, a 'common goal' is the linking string, not 'high penetration of a seperate methodology we've identified elsewhere'

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
          Replying to @KetanJ0 @bernybelvedere and

          I don't understand that tweet.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 Oct 10
          Replying to @HPluckrose @bernybelvedere and

          In your article, 'grievance studies' is a loaded umbrella term that targets everything within a collection of fields, but post-publication, the definition has been retro-actively changed to mean a methodology or an approach prominent in those fields.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
          Replying to @KetanJ0 @bernybelvedere and

          No, it hasn't. You even screenshotted the section in which we said specifically what approach to identity studies we were criticising and are ignoring the discussion which says this is not the case and asks people not to say that it is.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
        6. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 Oct 10
          Replying to @HPluckrose @bernybelvedere and

          Like with everything else associated with your project, I find the public pronouncement to be far more telling indications of intent than the content of the original post, when it comes to figuring out exactly who and what the targets really are.pic.twitter.com/DmgdjloPUT

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
          Replying to @KetanJ0 @bernybelvedere and

          I have been fully open about my intent. I have criticised these fields for years before doing the project. I am writing a book about the problem. That's why I did the project. Why do you find it suspicious that people who see a problem somewhere then investigate it?

          2 replies 0 retweets 28 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
          Replying to @HPluckrose @KetanJ0 and

          I don't want gender studies defunded. I want it made rigorous. I'd actually like to teach it. I understand why people think it is providing nothing worthwhile right now tho.

          3 replies 3 retweets 24 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10
          Replying to @HPluckrose @KetanJ0 and

          Do you react in this way when feminists who have argued a problem to exist somewhere in regards to women's rights then investigate it and test this claim? Would you say 'Your previous statements show your intent to argue that sexism exists. Therefore looking for evidence is bad."

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