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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

    My timeline just got a lot more bearable by muting all the people waffling obscurantistly and completely beside the point. These are the ones who bother me the most because they're usually smart people who could engage substantively and valuably if they chose.

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

        Instead, they slip & slide abt responding to alternative interpretations of straightforward statements & arguing it is plausible to interpret them this way or taking straightforward statements back to fundamental philosophical debates that can never be resolved on their own terms

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

        This is usually done to derail plainly spoken conversations about issues that are having a real impact on society right now. The key to this is to not engage with it or allow yourself to get taken off course into irresolvable abstractions.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

        This will result in being called 'anti-intellectual' but, in reality, people can apply their intellects to many different topics most effectively and it is perfectly reasonable to decide not to spend yours on obscure and irresolvable philosophical/theological/postmodern concepts.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

        If we want to know, say, how certain ideas about truth and knowledge have evolved over the last 50 years & are affecting society, we do not need to have solved the problem of accessing knowledge via human senses & brains or have read everything every philosopher ever said abt it.

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 10

        Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Tricoteuse

        By contrast, this kind of "criticism" is much more bearable.https://twitter.com/TricoteuseToo/status/1050022076155916294 …

        Helen Pluckrose added,

        Tricoteuse @TricoteuseToo
        Replying to @usatodayopinion @ConceptualJames and 2 others
        #FakeNews #AltRightMonsters #FascistPropaganda #WeSeeYou
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      2. Zetetic Advocate‏ @ZeteticAdvocate Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Well, to be honest, are you really surprised? To be obscure is the point of postmodernism, an intellectual game of word salad sudoku (& like sudoku in that one must get the order right), that privileges the smart while giving them the rationalization of helping the disadvantaged.

        1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
      3. (((theophilus)))‏ @pammalamma Oct 10
        Replying to @ZeteticAdvocate @HPluckrose

        This is exactly my opinion about postmodern philosophy, modern art, and academia in general. The overall ethos is something about populism, and yet how many average or especially truly oppressed people could fathom these encoded messages about themselves? Or assent to them?

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      2. Christina Andreola‏ @CAndreola211 Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I commend you for trying to reason with them, but sometimes you just have to walk away.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. John Buckoke‏ @JohnBuckoke Oct 10
        Replying to @CAndreola211 @HPluckrose

        I agree @CAndreola211 @HPluckrose is a shining light in the darkness

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. The Otakusphere‏ @TheOtakusphere Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'm reminded of Richard Feynman's "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it," point. The people I've seen arguing with you were using obscure jargon to make nebulous points; If they had a compelling problem with what you did, they could state it clearly.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Dr. T Rodriguez, ⱂⰞⰴ‏ @DrTandtheLg Oct 10
        Replying to @TheOtakusphere @HPluckrose

        I had a similar reaction to these polysyllabic verbose responses. I call double-speak on that.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Shinobi Yaka‏ @YakaShinobi Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Hands up all those who had to look up "obscurantistly"? <Sigh> just me then...

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Zeemo‏ @zeemo_n Oct 10
        Replying to @YakaShinobi @HPluckrose

        <-- not this guy. the pros of speaking a romance language.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. (((theophilus)))‏ @pammalamma Oct 10
        Replying to @zeemo_n @YakaShinobi @HPluckrose

        Obscurantism is like the “spaceship shield” of academia. So common as a defensive technique.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Shinobi Yaka‏ @YakaShinobi Oct 11
        Replying to @pammalamma @zeemo_n @HPluckrose

        Thats a good way of putting it. 🙂

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Richard Dickerson‏ @SlothSamurai Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Dunning Kruger effect.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. nobs‏ @antiT0talitaire Oct 10
        Replying to @SlothSamurai @HPluckrose

        Could as well be attention / reputation seekers, or simply time wasters trying to overload political opponents with fallacious reasonings.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Matt Snavely‏ @mattsnavely Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If you ever catch me waffling obscurantistly, please feel free to go through my pockets and keep anything you find of value.

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      1. Liisa Henriksson-Mac‏ @liisamusic Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes, the peace of mind that comes from using the mute button feels always like a temporary Buddha state 😸

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      1. Nikolaj Hansen‏ @BarnabasDK Oct 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Here's an idea from an fart. Try to make some sort of statistic on who abuses you the most because of your recent activity. The left or the right. Given you are clearly on the left.

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