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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 8
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt @MarkDForman

      Postmodernism, when done well, is about undermining illegitimate epistemology. Using the extreme of a technique as the centre is like saying all evolution proponents are Eugenics supporters (one of the many illegitimate scientific ideologies Postmodern critique helped undermine)

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    2. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Jun 8
      Replying to @alangnixon @GodDoesnt @MarkDForman

      So what according to your understanding of postmodernism is a legitimate epistemology?

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    3. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 8
      Replying to @colwight @GodDoesnt @MarkDForman

      There are many. I support scientific epistemologies regularly ( i.e. climate science, vaccination science, evolutionary science). I believe in empirical research. But as someone who has studied it, I don't believe all postmodern critique is about undermining legitimate science.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
      Replying to @alangnixon @colwight and

      But what is the method? Science itself is a method for undermining faulty truth claims particularly its own. Its methods are falsification, peer review, requirement for replication, rewarding discovery of error, regarding all findings as provisional. How does PoMo go about this?

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        2. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @colwight and

          The method (although diverse and I can't do it justice here) is most often associated with uncovering the ways in which language is used to hide ideology. Often applied to concepts like 'progress', which too often in modernity, actually meant domination by a particular ideology.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @alangnixon @GodDoesnt

          Yes, I know the theory. How does it show this? ( Full disclosure: I'm actually writing a book about this at the moment so I do know the ideas) How does it work? How does it show we have not progressed but simply been dominated by an ideology? What are the measures?

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @alangnixon @GodDoesnt

          eg, how do they argue that the eradication of many diseases, vastly improved life expectancy, reduced infant mortality, vastly increased rights for women & ethnic & sexual minorities is the dominance of an ideology rather than legitimate progress. What would progress look like?

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        5. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          These first 3 aren't the things that get critiqued. The critique would sit at the junction where these improvements are not spread evenly due to structural prejudices. That form of critique is actually partly responsible for the second lot of progress examples.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @alangnixon @GodDoesnt

          They are things which are posited as 'progress' tho and undermining science probably won't help that. Also, no, The Civil Rights Movement, Gay Pride & 2nd Wave Liberal Feminism happened before postmodernism & were driven by universal liberalism which PoMo rejects.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @alangnixon @GodDoesnt

          I actually have to go and work but you're making a lot of the same defences of PoMo as a piece I recently edited for Areo. I also responded to it in Areo:https://areomagazine.com/2018/04/28/skepticism-is-necessary-in-our-post-truth-age-postmodernism-is-not/ …

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        8. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          No worries. Thanks for directing me to the article, I'll take a read and get back to you. I'm not adverse to thoughtful discussion on the topic. My issue lies with the current characterisations of Po Mo which are resulting in hyperbole and misunderstandings about the ideas.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @alangnixon @GodDoesnt

          Thanks. Yes, mine too. I will soon writing something to address the 'postmodernism is neo-Marxism' nonsense. There are valid & invalid, informed & uninformed criticisms of postmodernism as a set of skeptical approaches to grand narratives. I ultimately think there are better ones

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        2. Dr Alan Nixon‏ @alangnixon Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @colwight and

          The word 'science' is a good example. By calling Eugenics a science, eugenicists were able to get their policies adopted in many countries (e.g. Australia and the US), when it was prejudiced ideology dressed up as science. Psychology did similar things to women and homosexuals.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 9
          Replying to @alangnixon @colwight and

          Yes, but how does postmodernism show us this? Surely it was recognised that eugenics were often used to enforce illiberal and fascistic ideologies before postmodernism gained prominence? Liberal humanism had some objections to it. How does PoMo address it better?

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        2. Mark Forman‏ @MarkDForman Jun 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @alangnixon and

          I for one don't think of postmodernism as a method. I think that muddies things. Rather, it is best seen as a style of theorizing that focuses on the context and identity of the knower and how that might influence their view or interpretation of the known.

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        3. Mark Forman‏ @MarkDForman Jun 9
          Replying to @MarkDForman @HPluckrose and

          Again, it does not seem necessary to take it to extreme forms of relativism, nor marry it with Marxism. Data, once produced, will inevitably merge w/ the social. That is, 3rd person objectivity is inextricably meshed w/ 1st person subjectivity and 2nd person intersubjectivity.

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        4. Mark Forman‏ @MarkDForman Jun 9
          Replying to @MarkDForman @HPluckrose and

          This is especially true as the data produced becomes more complex, especially as it approaches life and mind.

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        5. Mark Forman‏ @MarkDForman Jun 9
          Replying to @MarkDForman @HPluckrose and

          So at least for that, we can't treat social phenomena like we treat physics or chemistry. And so a power analysis, an analysis of identity, and thinking about language has something to contribute to our understanding of social science, psychology, history, and politics.

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        6. Michael Porcelli‏ @michaelporcelli Jun 9
          Replying to @MarkDForman @HPluckrose and

          There’s PoMo as literary/cultural product v activism. The first sense is a meaning-interpretation process where cultural productions are both input and output. As activism, ideology, or policy production it’s bankrupt. Downsizing to the first sense is proper.

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