You know, it's perfectly coherent to be fully, vocally, loudly in support of women having equal rights, freedom & opportunities without insisting that all women advocate this & the only people who are in support of restrictive gender roles now & historically, have been men.
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The only meaningful differences between humans are those between INDIVIDUALS. all else is simplistic, misleading pigeon-holing, over-generalisation and categorisation. These were once useful for fight or flight, but are now just a vestigial, annoyingly deep human trait
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I actually heard something one time that I thought was interesting. The idea was that in backwards 3d world society, social norms that treated women poorly was mostly enforced by the older women. I saw no data on it, but found it an interesting idea.
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Reminds me of intersectional feminism to be honest.
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The depressing thing about all this is that it's that most of the time anyone says it, they just spit a lazy cop-out 3rd Wavers have pre-canned : "Women against equality have been brainwashed by the patriarchy"
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As such, no woman ever was at fault... (But at the same time, never had agency) By then they state that the way to change these women is to keep attacking men because... Reasons.
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By treating women as non-agents all the time 3rd Wavers assure their demography following their ideals never gets the indepedence they wish for.
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