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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @LotakX @mjaeckel

      I agree that many women found it restrictive and unfair (because it was). Everyone had to conform though, and both sexes created and enforced the rules (that’s my thesis). The majority imposed on the minority.

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    2. Georgiana‏ @PorgyGeorgy Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @LotakX @mjaeckel

      Everybody conformed to the same pre-established laws, set in stone from times immemorial, that placed men above women in terms of decision making that wasn't about affairs of the kitchen and other housework. And it was easier to go with it than to face the consequences.

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    3. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @LotakX @mjaeckel

      Another thought experiment: A pride of lions. The new alpha male has just beaten and exiled the old one and asserts him dominion over all the lionesses, killing all their young cubs. The lionesses could kill him! They are ferocious hunters and outnumber him maybe 15 to 1.

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    4. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @PorgyGeorgy and

      He's get no help from his male rivals. He's be doomed. Yet the lionesses just let him kill their cubs and accept him as their new mate. That behaviour is a product of evolution. Now humans are not lions but I'm trying to understand them at *that* level.

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    5. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @PorgyGeorgy and

      When a division of labour or an hierarchal structure is a universal among humans, until very recently (and have the roots of it really gone away?), I can't just accept "it's just the men" as an answer, because it makes no evolutionary sense. I'm looking for instinctive behaviour>

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    6. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @PorgyGeorgy and

      and co-evolved characteristics that may explain it. Men being stronger is not an explanation. Horses are much stronger, yet they let us ride them and obey our commands (cos we bred them that way) That's why I'm looking for possible economic trade offs that could explain things.

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    7. Georgiana‏ @PorgyGeorgy Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @LotakX @mjaeckel

      Because we are capable of cooperating in ways and to degrees that other animals don't. That's what gives us an advantage not only within spices, but against other species as well. That's why man is "the king of the jungle".

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    8. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @PorgyGeorgy @LotakX @mjaeckel

      We have hyper-developed frontal cortexes that allow us to make simulations of possible outcomes and thus choose better courses of action than blindly following our base instincts. We are not prisoners of our evolutionary past. So long as we respect our nature, we can improve.

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    9. Georgiana‏ @PorgyGeorgy Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen

      Indeed. 😊pic.twitter.com/hEUttswjtN

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    10. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
      Replying to @PorgyGeorgy

      Well at least my dearest Georgiana is still speaking to me. I’m sad that I’ve alienated some good people today. Maybe I wasn’t careful enough, or maybe my views are abhorent to them. I shall remain honest and candid though.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jun 7
      Replying to @BristolBen @PorgyGeorgy

      Sorry, I've been aware of it back and forth in the peripheries but have been too busy to get into this yet again. It's too bloody complicated. That's why I wrote an essay. I have addressed it briefly now. You have probably been a bit too bloodless but you will get people back. x

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        1. Ben‏ @BristolBen Jun 7
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PorgyGeorgy

          pic.twitter.com/O4Hwe9Ipd8

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