But if we are guided practice detached from the meaning concepts then things become relativistic and unwieldy very quickly. This is a recipe for driving division and talking past one another.
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Replying to @LTorcello @JeremyPhilosoph
Yeah, reality is messy. We have to go with what people actually do and say when we're looking at an evolvong ideology rather than with concepts read in most charitable light.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @JeremyPhilosoph
I don't know when reading an opposing view point in its most charitable light became bad argumentative practice. I do know that doing so amplifies those who aren't being careful with definitions and concepts while spreading more heat than light.
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Replying to @LTorcello @JeremyPhilosoph
It's not but while you are providing the most charitable reading of the foundational documents of intersectionality or Islam or Marxism or whatever, other people are dealing with the reality of ideology in practice. It still does to be charitable when talking to any individual.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @JeremyPhilosoph
You can do both. I can critique someone's interpretation, or misinterpretation, of a concept while doing justice to that concept. This is my responsibility as a liberal. I don't think using "Identity Politics" as a synonym for relativism, or "SJW" as a slur ever helps.
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Replying to @LTorcello @JeremyPhilosoph
Yes and I think I do. I explain intersectionality very charitably here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AvyqUOKhGA … I break down Crenshaw's foundational essays here: http://helenpluckroseblogs.blogspot.com/2017/02/extract-from-essay-of-mine-which-breaks.html … And the book I am currently writing on the subject starts with the good.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @JeremyPhilosoph
Thanks for sharing, Helen. I'll try to watch this whole thing when I can. You, in particular, seem more charitable than your panel partners so far. I'm struck by how quickly things have gone from critique to castigating opponents as religious zealots in conspiratorial tones.
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Replying to @LTorcello @JeremyPhilosoph
Well, we do all think there is a quasi-religious zealotry going on right now which is troubling but we all support liberal aims for gender/racial/LGBT equality. We critique the extremes on both sides. James and I wrote this one:https://areomagazine.com/2017/08/22/a-manifesto-against-the-enemies-of-modernity/ …
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Replying to @HPluckrose @JeremyPhilosoph
Extremes are are one thing but (so far in the video) I'm not hearing any examples of reasonable foils on the other side who aren't "filling a church" when it comes to contemporary scholarship. This strikes me as a problem given the audience of young conservatives...
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And given that the event ia aponsored bu Turning Point USA. Given that I am on their Professor watchlist I'm inclined to view them as part of the extremist problem--looking for catnip.
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I don't really know them. One of them wasn't very happy with my socialist tendencies. I don't know you either tho. You could both be extremists or neither but have a tendency to view each other as extremists.
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