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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Justin Tiehen‏ @jttiehen May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen @HPluckrose

      3. I agree there’s a *practical* matter of how to combat racism, but I’d want to give researchers wide berth in *theorizing* it how they see, unconstrained by such practical considerations. So for example...

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    2. Justin Tiehen‏ @jttiehen May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen @HPluckrose

      Maybe it annoys people to claim that implicit bias is pervasive, and maybe pointing this out actually causes more racist behavior. Regardless, I want to know: is it *true*? If it’s true, researchers should be allowed to point it out.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen

      I wrote a thread which explains what *I* am talking about. I can only ask you to read it and respond only to what I have said. Perhaps you are detecting hidden meaning advocating limiting researchers on their topics of study but I cannot be held responsible for them.

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    4. Justin Tiehen‏ @jttiehen May 31
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I thought you were objecting to the claim “all white people are racist,” but looking back at our thread I see you don’t object to it explicitly. So maybe I misunderstood...

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    5. Justin Tiehen‏ @jttiehen May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen @HPluckrose

      And I thought you were saying that the epistemological you mention make claims that are at least roughly in this vicinity. So I thought you were objecting to these epistemologists on that basis. But you don’t explicitly say you object to them, so maybe I misunderstood.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen

      My focus is different to your focus. I make no claims about whether it is true or false to say that all white people are racist. This will depend on the definition of racist & rigorous research into it. I am talking about the rights of people to their own thoughts.

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    7. Justin Tiehen‏ @jttiehen May 31
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      This is now an entirely separate point from the argument I was advancing above, but I think I also am skeptical that people have “rights to their own thoughts,” at least on one disambiguation of this phrase. But I’m not sure you’re interest so I won’t push that line here.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 31
      Replying to @jttiehen

      If you don't follow me & you don't read my stuff & you are working from a completely different angle to my ethical/cultural/political one, u will not know the context of my arguments which are rooted in universal liberalism & empiricism. I cannot cover this much ground in tweets

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 31
      Replying to @HPluckrose @jttiehen

      It is quite possible that we could have a very good conversation if we agreed on which category we are talking in first and looked at one argument from one angle having ensured we are, in fact, talking about the same thing. I also think it matters primarily what is true.

      9:57 AM - 31 May 2018
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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 31
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jttiehen

          But in this thread, I am speaking to a very specific aspect of the culture wars and a disagreement between two kinds of liberals on the most ethical & productive way to reduce racism in society which also includes differences on freedom of speech & belief & conception of society.

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