Fair enough. I’m mostly familiar just with how certain academics talk about implicit bias, but if you tell me there are people on tumblr or whatever who think of it differently, I can’t speak to that—you may be right.
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Replying to @jttiehen
Yes, this was in response to someone claiming all white people are racist. However, you can look to Medina, DiAngelo, Bailey, Applebaum, Wolf, McIntyre, Ahmed, Boler and many many more feminist & critical race epistemologists for the source of such claims.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
1. This is separate from the original point regarding implicit bias. 2. This claim may be true or false, but it doesn’t seem in principle more objectionable than, say, Haidt claiming all people have certain moral foundations which often operate unconsciously...
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Replying to @jttiehen @HPluckrose
3. I agree there’s a *practical* matter of how to combat racism, but I’d want to give researchers wide berth in *theorizing* it how they see, unconstrained by such practical considerations. So for example...
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Replying to @jttiehen @HPluckrose
Maybe it annoys people to claim that implicit bias is pervasive, and maybe pointing this out actually causes more racist behavior. Regardless, I want to know: is it *true*? If it’s true, researchers should be allowed to point it out.
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Replying to @jttiehen
I wrote a thread which explains what *I* am talking about. I can only ask you to read it and respond only to what I have said. Perhaps you are detecting hidden meaning advocating limiting researchers on their topics of study but I cannot be held responsible for them.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I thought you were objecting to the claim “all white people are racist,” but looking back at our thread I see you don’t object to it explicitly. So maybe I misunderstood...
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Replying to @jttiehen
Yes, I object to that generally. But that isn't what you've been responding to either and I don't see how this ties into what you have been assuming about my wish to limit researchers. This is an incoherent & highly unproductive conversation & I am not wasting any more time on it
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Replying to @HPluckrose
To clarify: my claim is that the line you’re pushing would have the *unintended effect* of limiting researchers, where my hope is you would regard this as a reductio and so revise your line because of it. My claim isn’t that you’re intentionally trying to limit researchers.
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Replying to @jttiehen
No, it won't. We can support rigorous research into implicit bias, moral foundations & even race IQ (which makes me queasy but this is no reason to ban it) AND object to thought policing and accusations of people & demands that they dismantle their whiteness or whatever.
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This was part of the thread which perhaps makes my focus clearer.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1002171323433586688 …
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