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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. BI‏ @BIofGG May 29
      Replying to @NevTheRambler @HPluckrose

      Yeah, sorry, but I've seen too many times people blocking over opinions to believe it's healthy to encourage people to not speak to each other. It's really easy to say "I'm open minded, it's just that he was mean".

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    2. (((The Rambler)))‏ @NevTheRambler May 29
      Replying to @BIofGG @HPluckrose

      I agree with your sentiments, though I think Helen's point here was blocking because of attitude should be possible and still maintain heterodoxy. Hopefully, other people with a healthier attitude are around to air the same or similar opinions without the vitriol.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @NevTheRambler @BIofGG

      Precisely. Don't waste time trying to have a productive convo with rude or dishonest people when you could be talking about the same things with reasonable & sincere people. This is something people have been telling me for years & I've been bad at it. Got to do it.

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    4. BI‏ @BIofGG May 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NevTheRambler

      We will have to profoundly disagree then. My prediction is that at some point you will ask yourself "how could X have happened?" And your surprise should not be forgivable, nor distress passed injustice.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @BIofGG @NevTheRambler

      Don't know what the last bit means but I'll live with the consequences of blocking anyone who can't have a reasoned & civil conversation/disagreement. I co-wrote this about it.https://areomagazine.com/2018/04/07/freedom-of-speech-and-the-fallacy-of-demanding-to-be-heard/ …

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    6. BI‏ @BIofGG May 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose @NevTheRambler

      I'll give it a read after work. That being said what I'm referring is this: https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.deccanchronicle.com/amp/world/america/091116/us-elections-shock-tears-in-clinton-camp-as-trump-surges-ahead.html?source=images … my impression is that people will take your advice as an excuse to not listen and isolate themselves. These people tears are due to that.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @BIofGG @NevTheRambler

      No-one can take any of my words as advice not to listen and isolate themselves. I argue the opposite frequently &, in fact, my own followers are widely diverse. Honest people can tell the difference between people disagreeing with them & people being dishonest or abusive jerks.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BIofGG @NevTheRambler

      I also talked about this here: https://conatusnews.com/twitter-productive-conversation/ … It's easy to both have widely ideologically diverse Twitter conversations AND refuse to engage with abusive or dishonest people by simply understanding the difference between disagreeing & being a timewasting arsehole.pic.twitter.com/9olw5l0aA8

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BIofGG @NevTheRambler

      Honestly, if I set up an echo chamber in which what is echoed is not ideas but civility and reasonableness in the presence of different ideas, I will be quite happy with that.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BIofGG @NevTheRambler

      I wrote here about the value of arguing with ideological extremists (although I no longer think the concept of the 'centre' is ideal) and I still believe in that. However, I am no longer engaging with random dishonest, snarky or abusive tweeters.https://areomagazine.com/2016/12/14/the-value-of-arguing-with-extremists-building-a-moderate-center/ …

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 29

      There's just too many of them, they don't deserve my time or attention & they just get in the way of productive conversation. I think Twitter would be a much better place if we all prioritised our attention to those at least trying to be civil, reasonable & honest.

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        1. Harold Weaver Smith‏ @hws5mp May 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Or to put it another way, a way that I was told about five minutes after getting on the internet over a decade ago, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS....

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        2. Matthew Berg‏ @wnyconservative May 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          For the record, this is precisely why I follow your account. People I can enjoy disagreeing with are a rare commodity.

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        3. Matthew Berg‏ @wnyconservative May 29
          Replying to @wnyconservative @HPluckrose

          It is far too easy to read only the worst examples of differing opinions, to justify our hatred and self-righteousness.

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        1. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski May 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Those kinds of dialectical discussions between people so vastly apart are only productive face to face, in my experience. Social media tends to make people less open and more defensive.

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