If anyone is still following or reading @AreoMagazine and specifically @hpluckrose you might want to know that she just blocked me for politely suggesting she read a statistics paper.
Then other statisticians came in and started telling them they were using an unfalsifiable hypothesis & being intentionally obscurantist & dishonest & also something about a false model. Well, this: https://twitter.com/prshearer/status/1001082821270622208 …
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And this. I've no idea what any of it means but it seems I have stumbled into an argument which makes statisticians very angry & I'm on the side of the ones who aren't rude to me, speak plainly & accept I can talk abt gender issues sans statistical models. https://twitter.com/prshearer/status/1001152411417874433 …
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I think it's not necessary to be knowledgeable in statistics to understand their point about this. It's basically, if we're saying the earnings gap between men and women is 0 when we look at men and women in the same jobs, hours, etc, that doesn't mean there's no discrimination
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Yes, pointed out early on that statistics were no good for discovering the causes of the imbalance and I said OK and had thread about that so but still needing to talk abt choices so doing it without statistics (tho the likelihood of my doing it with statistics was never high)
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Nobody said stats are "no good"! We said they are complicated and the simple approach you are championing is not appropriate. You then refused to engage further. This is not a pro-science stance and as the magazine champions science I thought it relevant.
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Statistics are only as good as the hypotheses and models that generate them. A high p-value doesn't make up for a badly designed experiment. I can't imagine why that's remotely controversial. >
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I believe the original point of argument in this discussion was that many of those pushing the claim of discrimination as the sole reason for the pay gap are systemically failing to test any alternate hypothesis. That critique stands, as far as I can see.
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