That was interesting. A statistician asserting the cause of the gender pay gap to be discrimination because gender comes before choices, then says that he couldn't comment on different interests & choices because this is not his field. I appreciate that honesty but...
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I was really shocked by the bizarreness of that argument. It seems he's saying if event A predates event B, then A causes B, so you cannot control for B when considering some outcome C.
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Replying to @kareem_sabri @HPluckrose
Kareem, that is true. http://scunning.com/cunningham_mixtape.pdf … page 74. This is a standard statistical result.
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Replying to @besttrousers @kareem_sabri
Then we'd have a problem with this method. If the wage gap were caused by men and women happily making different choices, there'd be absolutely no way to show this.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @kareem_sabri
Yes. That's what we're telling you. When you and folks like Peterson say "oh, it dissapointed with occupational controls" all you are demonstrating is that you haven't thought carefully about the issue. Causal inference is *hard*, especially about stuff like nature/nurture.
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Replying to @besttrousers @kareem_sabri
If you want to have a conversation about this, talk to me civilly and in good faith without sneering condescension. Otherwise I will just mute you and discuss it with someone who can manage to disagree with me without vitriol.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @kareem_sabri
I'm not talking with vitriol. I am trying to explain to you that you are making a statistical error. Lots of people are unfamiliar with statistical methods!
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Statistics will tell us what is. I am concerned with why that is. There is no disagreement that a gap exists. You are telling me statistics cannot tell us why it does. Therefore, they are of no use to the ethical discussion.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @kareem_sabri
Statistics can tell us a lot! See the reivews I sent you! But you can't put choice variables on the right hand side.
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