Well, it doesn't make much sense to wait until all the economists agree, and only then work for pay equality. In the meantime, we should support both the economists AND the activists in their work. Both are vital and important.
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Replying to @cjbanning @JamesHeartfield and
And if the activists causation model is wrong? If they're accusing entire fields of harassment and overt discrimination when there are other explanations for unequal outcomes, that doesn't seem very productive to me.
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Replying to @iamcuriousblue @cjbanning and
eg, I don't see any evidence that the lack of women in engineering is caused by discrimination, when in fact, very few women major in it or even take Engi 101 courses. That speaks to me of relative lack of interest, whether cultural or hard-wired or some combination.
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Replying to @iamcuriousblue @JamesHeartfield and
And I see very few people (possibly not any!) arguing that the lack of women in that particular field is caused by hiring discrimination specifically, as opposed to general hostility to women or other factors.
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Replying to @cjbanning @JamesHeartfield and
Care to cite and provide details about "general hostility"? At the school I worked at, they bent over backwards to try to get more women into the engineering program.
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Replying to @iamcuriousblue @JamesHeartfield and
Who are "they"? The administration? The faculty? The other students?
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Replying to @cjbanning @JamesHeartfield and
Administration, faculty, and outside organizations like Society of Women Engineers and IEEE.
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Replying to @iamcuriousblue @JamesHeartfield and
And yet it's other students with whom female engineering students would be interacting with the most.
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Replying to @cjbanning @JamesHeartfield and
Are you implying that it's the other students that are driving them out? That seems to be reaching on your part.
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Replying to @iamcuriousblue @JamesHeartfield and
It's only anecdotal, of course, but that's the explanation I've heard most often. Other students and (in the workforce) colleagues, not (as much) administration or bosses.
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Is it possible that you are hearing from people who share a certain ideology? It tends to be women saying the opposite who contact me.
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