I'm supposed to take seriously a man who tells people what to do based on what lobsters do, and gets even that wrong? What are these empirically correct statements which he's supposed to have made? Honestly curious.
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @Manglewood and
It's inaccurate to claim the man has made no correct statements, or no empirical statements. And it's naive and foolish to consider him stupid, as many people do. I don't know about "empirically correct", but his discussion of the gender pay gap is certainly empirically grounded.
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what?! his discussion of the gender pay gap is where he gets precipitously owned by actual economists.
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Replying to @gztstatistics @thatyellowfog and
From what I understand, as he claims, when you do a multi-variate analysis of gender pay gap it shrinks to significantly less than 70 cents on the dollar or whatever the common number is.https://www.economist.com/international/2017/10/07/the-gender-pay-gap …
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Replying to @kareem_sabri @gztstatistics and
1-7 cents usually remains once job roles and hours worked are accounted for. And the gap appears to disappear completely for childless women suggesting much of it is about having taken breaks.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @kareem_sabri and
Again, read the papers - job roles are after gender on the causal chain...
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Replying to @HPluckrose @gztstatistics and
His claim, as I read it, is women are choosing lower paying fields or roles because they're avoiding ones that discriminate against them. Discriminating in what metric, I don't know. Software engineering pays high for all genders.
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Replying to @kareem_sabri @HPluckrose and
No, the claim is that controlling for occupational choice underestimates the wage gap - and there are other independent measures of discrimination against women in the workplace, but we were discussing wages specifically. There are a lot of things Peterson gets wrong here.
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Replying to @gztstatistics @HPluckrose and
Well, the wage gap is commonly defined as "for the same job". Presumably you can't measure that without controlling for occupational choice. Unless you're redefining the wage gap to mean the difference in the absolute earnings for men and women.
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He is. Nobody disputes this differs. Feminists claims its evidence of discrimination against women. MRAs claim its evidence of the financial exploitation of men. Sane people look at the fact that men & women differ psychologically and at social influences.
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