see the Peterson and science section for a number of pretty devastating refutations of Peterson's understanding of lobster biology, the gender pay gap, and personality testing.https://www.patreon.com/posts/jordan-peterson-17972181 …
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Ah, so it sounds like you haven't read the economics papers. The simple insight you're missing is that those choices are after gender on the causal pathway, so you can't include them as controls to get your estimates. There still is a gap after you account for them, by the way.
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Do explain? Why aren't the choices people make significant to the income they earn?
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Helen, you and Peterson are making a mathematical error here. See page 74 of
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What you are doing is called "controlling for a collider". Doing it means your regression has no causal implications. You are *assuming* no discrimination, not proving it.
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I'm not assuming anything. Just saying that the fact that men and women earn different amounts of money doesn't tell us anything about the cause if the only variable considered is gender and we don't account for different jobs chosen and different hours worked.
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You are assuming it by the nature of the regression you are suggesting. That you are unaware of it doesn't make it untrue.
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No. The people you are arguing against already know the simple notion that the choices women make could be affected by discriminatory behaviour/systems. Which is why they spend a large amount of time showing evidence that this effect is weak, and other causes are more likely.
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Yep. If stats won't show that it matters whether women earn less because they work less or choose lesser paid work or because they are discriminated against, they are no good for this kind of problem. Because that is the difference that, in reality, actually matters.
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Just read this discussion and all references therein for a clearer understanding of the economic consensus on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dzk5q1n/ … hope that helps. Have a nice day.
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