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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      He's not wrong. I believe in science. The discussing you and I are having isn't scientific but philosophical, yet it's still a question of evidence, but not scientific evidence. And we are concerned with agreeing or disagreeing not about what is meaningful but about what is true.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick

      I really can't put my position across any more clearly than I have. You can either address it clearly as it is or not. You have chosen not and I have things to do.

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    3. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It's true that science is based on evidence. But there are other kinds of evidence than just scientific. Philosophical argument, for example, is based on other kinds of evidence. Philosophical arguments still concern questions of truth and evidence, but in fields outside science.

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    4. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick @HPluckrose

      If one says that scientific evidence is the only kind of evidence, then philosophy is just a part of science. But if we say that philosophy works with forms of evidence not limited to scientific evidence, then the use of evidence is not itself sufficient to distinguish science.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick

      Give me an example of a form of evidence not limited to scientific evidence? Are we talking about evidence of things not generally studied by the natural sciences - eg medieval manuscripts being evidence of beliefs held in that period?

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    6. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Do you think philosophy just argues about scientific evidence?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick

      Give me an example of a form of evidence not limited to scientific evidence? Are we talking about evidence of things not generally studied by the natural sciences - eg medieval manuscripts being evidence of beliefs held in that period?

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ComplaintStick

      I cannot know what you are saying unless you define 'Evidence which is not scientific.' If there is some point you want to make, please make it. I don't want to waste any more time trying to get you to actually say something.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ComplaintStick

      I think philosophy does a lot of things. The question here is does *your* philosophy work on evidence which is actually evident. If it does, great. If not, I would rather you did it elsewhere.

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    10. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      "Philosophy does a lot of things" definitely counts as vague.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick

      Yes, I'll openly admit I have no wish to get into all the forms of philosophy and what they do. This does not interest me. If you have no wish to get into what you mean by 'evidence which is not scientific' and that does not interest you, I'll move on.

      6:06 PM - 27 May 2018
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        2. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I didn't say anything about "all the forms" but OK.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
          Replying to @ComplaintStick

          No, I did. To not be vague about what philosophy does, that is what I'd have to do. You're clearly not going to say anything, It's all red herrings, diversions and vagueness on a topic you chose to (fail to) engage with. Why waste my time? You could have just not responded.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ComplaintStick

          I can't mute you without unfollowing so I'll have to do that. I bear you no ill will tho and you're very welcome to keep following me. I just don't want to waste time on this kind of waffle again. I need to mute a lot now to keep using Twitter or I just get bogged down like this.

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