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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27

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      I don't think so. It can be true that some things are found meaningful, obv. But those things may or may not be based in truth. There are right & wrong answers to things. A truth claim is true, false, partially true or unknown. https://twitter.com/ComplaintStick/status/1000871751218221056 …

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    2. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      The question is whether you can define "meaningful" in a way that excludes any relation to the true.

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    3. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
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      If we say that myths or narratives are meaningful, what do we mean by that? We mean that they provide knowledge about things that matter, like how to live or make decisions. That's not scientific knowledge, but knowledge of whatever kind still involves questions of what is true.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
      Replying to @ComplaintStick

      This could be subjective perceptions. 'I should live like this.' A matter of individual taste. Or an objective claim, 'This way of making decisions is best' which can be measured if particular desired outcomes specified or argued for using reason & evidence.

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        2. Complaint Stick‏ @ComplaintStick May 27
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          Questions of how to live, and questions of taste, are not just subjective. Opposing the subjective and the objective is a philosophical mistake. Myths and narratives are meaningful precisely because they involve questions that exceed subjectivity.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
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          That's why I said it could be both. Where the claim is objective, it can be measured. Where it is subjective, it can't. "How should I live' can have a subjective element - I should be a writer - and an objective claim - by following the doctrines of the Catholic church.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 27
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          Well, no. That was a bad example too. It depends what you're measuring against. The subjective would be the individual finding their lives enriched or not by either of those things. The objective could look at earning money, impact on human rights issues etc.

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