I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but anyway, maybe I'm too pragmatic. I don't think many people agree with my point lol. But for me it's so much about working or not working, but more about what you want to achieve or what conversation you want to bring about.
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Sorry, its part of an ongoing thing on my timeline about people mixing and merging arguments and this not working. You didn't do that.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/1000348943807631360 …
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@AvaDalley13 - I agree with you completely. We have a sick addiction to being righteous over doing what works, and, as Gough Whitlam observed when chiding the left last century over that exact phenomenon, "only the impotent are pure". -
Yep. I'm not sure Ava realised I was agreeing with her so thanks. I get a little too abstract at times.
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Oh lol that's alright, I get it now.
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Oh well, maybe I'm just too careful and don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know.
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No, not at all. I'm sorry if you feel used for demonstration! I'm just very interested in the layers of the argument and you're presenting a good example of the pragmatic one while Juli gives a good example of the principled one. Both these elements are needed.
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They do have a right to protest. But the league also has a right to protect its product, and police its work place.
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Sorry, didn’t see that one. For some reason it didn’t show up in my TL.
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@AvaDalley13 White people being on edge because they are fearful they are losing their place of privilege in society is not something that should give one pause. And that's really what this is all about. "Damn those uppity ..." for not knowing their place. -
White people are a huge chunk of the population, so BLM protesters are much less likely to get police reform if they alienate large swaths of the white population. This article suggests a better strategy:https://quillette.com/2018/05/24/folly-racialized-criminal-justice-reform-debate/ …
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I read the article, and there are some valid points. But may I respectfully suggest instead of getting defensive/offended when black people point out the realities of being black in America, maybe you should try to consider whether or not an actual point is being made.
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And I'm not particularly sorry, but worrying about offending the delicate sensibilities of white people simply because they are the majority should not be high on anyone's list of social justice concerns.
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You will never get any public policy change without significant white support, so avoiding giving unnecessay offense to whites should be a priority. Unless you are more interested in moral grandstanding than policy, in which case, carry on.
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If standing up and demanding justice offends certain people, so be it.
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Okay, so your objective isn't to actually achieve policy reform. You are more interested in moral grandstanding. I hope you enjoy yourself.
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We can do all of the above? LOL.
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Kneeling is their right. But, ultimately it seems that it amount to nothing more than "sticking up to the white men", so to say. I understand where people are coming from. And yes the White House started it. But does someone's childishness give us the right to be careless?
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Now that Trump has decided to abuse his office by calling for the ban, I hope the protest continues, and that white players join it in solidarity.
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That would "work" in the sense of drawing a line in the sand that a civilised commander-in-chief shouldn't think of crossing in future.
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