No. Cilantro either smells like soap to you or it doesn't. This is objectively true or false even tho it applies to a subject - you. Does Cilantro objectively smell like soap? No. https://twitter.com/unigolyn/status/1000003396106162176 …
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I said my dislike of it is subjective. There are objective reasons relating to my sense organs that contribute to this, but I don't think "your subjective opinion objectively exists" is a refutation of subjective truths.
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Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Michael N
https://twitter.com/MichaelN1756/status/1000005319727071232 … There are no subjective truths. Things are either true or they are not. They are not true for you but untrue for me except on the level of us being different subjects. 'I am a man' is true for you and 'I am a woman' is true for me.
Helen Pluckrose added,
Michael N @MichaelN1756Replying to @HPluckroseSimilarly, the term “subjective truth” is NOT usually used to describe the truths of subjective states (eg, “I am truly angry/sad/hearing yanny”), but the truth of factual beliefs based on subjective considerations (eg, “I don’t believe in evolution because it feels wrong.”)2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
Replying to @HPluckrose
That's just tautological. It is impossible to objectively prove that I don't like cilantro. Yet I assure you it is true. Hence it's a subjective truth. Obviously subjectivity does not apply to objective facts like evolution.
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Replying to @clifford_banes @HPluckrose
Yikes, that's not what subjective means at all. If it were, parts of evolution would be subjective because we can't conclusively prove that they happened.
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Replying to @Itsukushimi777 @HPluckrose
At no point did I say "subjective means unprovable".
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Replying to @clifford_banes @HPluckrose
Well, you certainly implied it with your cilantro example. If that wasn't what you were trying to convey there, then I don't know what was the point of that analogy.
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Replying to @Itsukushimi777 @HPluckrose
The point was that while there are objectively physiological (genetic) reasons you can point to about how I smell cilantro differently, my dislike of it is entirely subjective yet still true.
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I'm muting this conversation now. It has been explained to you many times that the existence of subjective experience is not denied or criticised by anyone. That isn't what 'subjective truth' means.
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