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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25

    Saying some things are objectively true & some are objectively false is valid. Saying different things are true of different subjects is valid. Saying different subjects have different perceptions of the same thing is valid.' Saying things can be 'subjectively true' is nonsense.

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      2. NPC-Of-The-Year‏ @BilboBobgans May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't think I agree. I think there are things which can only be true of the subject, such as my experience of the world is not the same as yours.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @BilboBobgans

        Then you do agree. That was my second point.

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      4. NPC-Of-The-Year‏ @BilboBobgans May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Seems like a contradiction to me, though, I suppose it could be said that 'objectively' I have a 'subjective' experience that differs from you and others.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @BilboBobgans

        Yes, exactly. Critics of subjective truth are not criticising the claim that different things are true of different subjects - I like red wine, you don't - but that truth itself is subjective - Evolution is true for me but not for you. No, evolution is true. One of you is wrong.

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      6. NPC-Of-The-Year‏ @BilboBobgans May 25
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        Things which are true of the external world, and not dependent upon the subjective experience of others, are true objectively, is something I agree with. I am not a solopsist. Assuming this is what you mean?

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      1. Vicky Powell‏ @VickyPowell8 May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Well, thank you for clearing that up!

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      1. Playse Houlder  🇯🇵‏ @PlayseHoulder May 25
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        This discussion of the meaning of "truth" mirrors the Sam Harris vs. JB Peterson debacle on youtube; you seem to be on Harris's side of the battlefield. I get what you're saying logically, but so long as terms get defined, still don't see major problems with the colloquial use.

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