H.K. Belvedere Ω

I think I understand the core reason I dislike the brand of MGTOW. They talk about women like they read about it in a book, translated into English from a french manuscript by a german

If you’ve been hurt, or zeroed out, naturally you may have a voice in your head that that suggests a MGTOW thought, but this is the same voice that tells you to quit anything else that’s hard in life. It’s the voice of weakness. MGTOW isn’t anti-woman, it’s anti-man.

IMHO: #MGTOW is to men as #Feminism is to women... both smell sour and taste bitter. We can do better.

This is literally what the feminists believe about boycotting sex with men. If everyone boycotts everyone, who TF is "in control"? And "once a woman accepts the lesbian lifestyle she won't go back to the kitchen." Is akin to your point. This doesn't work. That's why.

I don’t get this MGTOW fear/hate. If a man knows beyond doubt he’s bottom of the scale and no amount of game will save him, why not just embrace it? It’s nothing compared to feminism, literally a bunch of guys that don’t want to be ripped off by taxes and just be left alone.