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    Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

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    So, I woke up still pissed about the attitude of the guy in this tweet. That led me to look at the Incel forum message board. Fuck. Ing. Hell. Thread (warning - this is not nice reading):https://twitter.com/Grumples_/status/990370169225732096 …

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    Imagine being 'forced by the state to date' someone who thinks like this. This is one of the most disgusting things I've read. The fucking entitlement of this guy. Repulsive. What the fuck is 'sexual market value' - like women are a commodity. https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/990235360209915905 …
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      2. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I'd read about Incels in the news, following the Toronto attack, but this was the first time I'd actually paid much attention. I thought I'd find a few sporadic sick comments in between lots of comments from lonely men that wanted relationship advice. Wrong.

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      3. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        The following screenshots did not require digging. I literally went to the discussion board and looked at the first two or three pages.

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      4. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I think this screenshot best sums up the general attitude I foundpic.twitter.com/4zmLg9JCGR

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      5. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Misogyny is the theme of pretty much every single thread. To give you a feel for the sort of things blamed on women (summary: everything):pic.twitter.com/4pWkUYUN5i

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      6. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        (Interestingly, he tagged on a note at the end re: 80% of divorces being filed for by women - presumably because he thinks that's another bad thing women do. I imagine he hasn't thought about WHY women file for divorce).

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      7. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Further evidence of misogyny with the title 'you are not entitled to equal pay':pic.twitter.com/ta4brIMySQ

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      8. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        There is a common feeling of entitlement (interestingly there are threads complaining about the use of the word 'entitlement') to the extent where they believe women not being attracted to them is against their rights) See as follows ('manlet' is a term for 'short guy'):pic.twitter.com/nQYe04ORbI

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      9. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Final screenshot on this point before I move on to the topic of rape. This one speaks for itself.pic.twitter.com/pRhoEazRtS

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      10. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Ok, that's enough of the general theme of women hating. You get the picture. It gets a little darker from here on out, and some of this is pretty upsetting and repulsive.

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      11. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Rape is a very common theme. The general summary is that (a) women secretly enjoy rape, (b) women decide if it's rape after the event depending on how good looking the guy is, and (c) if a women is a 'slut' then it's not really rape at all.

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      12. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Here's a couple (amongst many) of examples:pic.twitter.com/ie63Szu4Z4

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      13. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        ...and the follow-up comments...pic.twitter.com/4qfYJMUTS6

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      14. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        pic.twitter.com/kz55dwRbOe

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      15. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        By the way, one of the things I find most chilling about all of that (I mean fuck - it's all chilling) is the guy who talks about stoning a woman refers to her as 'it'. I wonder if the dehumanisation of her makes it easier for him to justify killing her.

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      16. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        So the summary of the above screenshots seems to be that women must conform to some form of demure behaviour, particularly if they date a guy. If they don't then they're asking to be raped.

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      17. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I'm going to move on to violence in a bit, but before I do I want to highlight the creepy nature of some of the posts (as if misogyny and rape weren't enough). This guy, for example:pic.twitter.com/wQbkmJ27J6

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      18. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        This is excruciatingly creepy. The responses to him don't go much better:pic.twitter.com/EjgXNDiQ58

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      19. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Also, men rate women out of ten, as a matter of course. See this:pic.twitter.com/8mIPqJNiFl

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      20. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Ok, the violence then. This is hard reading given the recent Toronto attack. Here goes:pic.twitter.com/0yAKFHQMT1

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      21. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        This one is unreal given the circumstancespic.twitter.com/FPlcEsbwZi

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      22. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        The second is a response to the firstpic.twitter.com/8ntBuqBlM5

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      23. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Ok final screenshot, which is a new level of sicknesspic.twitter.com/BsrHun4z0A

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      24. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        My reason for posting this is that I haven't been this shocked in a long time. This is beyond repulsive. I don't know what the definition of hate speech is but this can't be far off. I doubt there's legal action that can be taken (and if there were it may only exacerbate matters)

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      25. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I honestly can't get into the mindset of these people. There's a good article here that surmises that rejection in these people leads to self-hate, which then manifests itself like this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/minority-report/201804/the-incel-involuntary-celibacy-problem?amp …

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      26. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Perhaps. It doesn't explain why these people deal with rejection in this way, whereas others deal with it and move on without becoming a woman hating, rape supporting advocate of violence.

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      27. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I don't know what the solution is either. I don't know any people like this. I know plenty of older men who have never had sex, and to the best of my knowledge they do not share these views.

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      28. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        The closest I've seen it come is a mate of mine who told me he wants 'a woman' because he needs to have children and wants a woman to look after him (he meant be a substitute for his mum). I challenged him on his attitude and choice of language, and I don't think he got it.

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      29. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Maybe that's what these people look like on the outside, when in public... I don't know?

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      30. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        Perhaps psychiatrists could start responding to the posts on the forum?

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      31. Grumples‏ @Grumples_ Apr 29

        I don't know. I'm out of ideas. But it's fucking horrifying, and I'm genuinely shocked. I'm off for a cup of tea and some gardening.

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