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    Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

    SEO case study involving sites ranking highly for uber-competitive terms they appear unsuited for, based on competition, site age, authority, link equity, on-site optimization, content length, TF-IDF, basically outliers by any metric SEO people love to argue over. 1/

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      2. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Verticals crowdsourced on twitter via this account and on skype/telegram/slack SEO chats, outliers identified and confirmed by me. 7 broad vertical 'buckets' totaling 117 keywords x analyzed the top 10 results =1174 (some front pages have 8-12 organic results, not my problem). 2/

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      3. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Tried to use the usual suspects ( @ahrefs @majestic Scrapebox ) for automating said research and while they all helped, ultimately I was left with about 60 sites that I had to analyze individually, both on and off site. Of these ~60 sites, 13 followed a very similar pattern. 3/

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      4. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        These 13 sites covered a range of verticals, including internet services, high volume Ecom terms, cannabis, pharma and adult. I eliminated local results both because of incongruity in consistent data and also because in some local SERPS, all the ranking national sites matched. 4/

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      5. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Let me say that again. In the most competitive local niches I analyzed, all the big time national brands that showed up on page 1 city after city were utilizing a strategy similar to this. When the outliers are no longer outliers...but I digress. 5/

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      6. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Of the 13 matches, 12 still rank. I'll never expose their URLs. The other one managed to screw up their rankings by deviating from the pattern. I likely won't divulge their URL either. They made a lot of money and could fix this. If that bothers you, hit the back button. 6/

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      7. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Going to give you the tl;dr version at this point, as there's value in just copying this: Relevant links (Only) Citations Brand anchors Limit link loss Relevant authority links > Relevant low authority links move the needle but not as much. Don't rent links, link loss :( 7/

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      8. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        If you hit the back arrow after that last one, your loss. There's a lot more "how" to this than "what". I realize that I'm going to struggle to explain it well in this format, but I was struggling to create a blog post that did the same. Cest la vie. 8/

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      9. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        But before that, we should probably discuss "why". Ranking a new site within six months while building links for less than 90 days? With 1/5th to 1/10th the link equity of your competition? And that site being worth $10k+/day easily. 9/

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      10. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        No, this is not my site. But I know this vertical intimately and tbh, $10k/day is probably an insult. Many days were likely north of six figures. And they stayed up there for 2 months before things went wrong on them. I'm pretty sure I've identified how to not go wrong. 10/

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      11. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Not sure how I got this far without mentioning @serpwoo but they were instrumental in being able to map links to SERP response. Thank you for existing. ON that same note, I tried to use @ahrefs for all my link mapping but sadly, their "new links" date data is sorely lacking 11/

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      12. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Not only do their link acquisition dates vary dramatically from what Google shows me via other methods but @ahrefs is literally reporting scraper site links before the high value content, sometimes a week or more before the high value links showed up. Messy data is bad data. 12/

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      13. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        I still think @ahrefs is a steal for the price and love them. They were instrumental in quickly allowing me to isolate the 60 potential matches that eventually got filtered to 13 matches. Every tool has value but to effectively map links to SERP changes had to switch gears. 13/

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      14. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Having to double back and check things via Google advanced queries was actually super valuable because I realized then that our outlier of outliers (the 1/13 not still dominating) had been (likely) renting links and their removal is one of two factors that led to decline. 14/

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      15. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        I used the following query for Google, limiting results to one week chunks. http://domain.com  -site:http://domain.com  July 1st-7th, 8th-14th, etc Screen scraped the results (Link clump and Ginfinity) because of data integrity issues. 15/

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      16. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Took the screen scraped data, reversed it because when you sort by date it's most recent to oldest and who formats data like that? Took the now chronological data and used Scrapebox to determine first if link existed and then again if non linked citation existed. 16/

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      17. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        If no link present and no unlinked citation present, feel that it's safe to assume that any result from the query was once a link that no longer exists. Tried to disprove this theory by doing same for 2 sites still ranking strong, they had very few 'missing' links/citations. 17/

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      18. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        I have to back up. On our chronologic link maps, The Google result from the operator used almost 100% matches the publication date. If no publication date, inferring it's actual indexation date. Sadly, we're dealing with a black box and not all variables can be eliminated. 18/

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      19. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Ok, so mapped out links from earliest to latest, and then created 4 columns: +3, +7, +14, +21. Into each column went the ranks according to @serpwoo 3, 7, 14, 21 days after link showed up in Google. We don't know link response time but graphing it out should help. 19/

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      20. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Time to classify links. I went with: High Authority Domain Relevant - HADR High Authority URL Relevant - HAUR High Authority No Relevance - HANR Low Authority Domain Relevant - LADR Low Authority URL Relevant - LAUR Low Authority No Relevance - LANR 20/

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      21. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Examples: High Authority Domain Relevant would be a link on Avvo article for a lawyer site, High Authority URL Relevant would be in an article about lawyers on the NYT, High Authority No Relevance would be a link in a roundup with no contextual reference to the legal field. 21/

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      22. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Low authority examples would be exactly the same, except the sites don't have any real authority. I used @ahrefs again for DR as authority but cross referencing vs @majestic TF was almost a perfect match with regards to bucketing. Moz users can assume whatever they want. 22/

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      23. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        So now we have link drop date (or index date), ranks for 4 time frames following and link classifications. Surprise, surprise. HADR links are the holy grail of SERP movement. Bet nobody saw that coming. :P Digging in, we start to see some very interesting patterns play out. 23/

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      24. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        HAUR links are the next biggest mover over these multiple month sample size, followed by LADR. What's interesting though is that multiple LADR links acquired in a short time frame exceeds the SERP movement of a single HAUR. Think 2-3 or 3-4. You following? 24/

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      25. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        HANR were surprisingly ineffective at moving the SERP needle while LAUR were similarly ineffective. And Google's claim that they have figured out how to discount low value links looks to bear some truth, as over hundred of isolated link drops, not much movement either way. 25/

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      26. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Now the only reason that any of this is relevant to anything is because all 13 sites are following one simple rule: No exact match anchors. That's right. They aren't building ANY anchors that match the terms they're ranking for. Branded variations, yes. Exact, no. 26/

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      27. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        That's not entirely true... both the no longer ranking outlier and the still ranking outliers have a smattering of exact match anchors...with distinctly negative results EVERY SINGLE TIME they used them...results that slowed their progress for weeks. 27/

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      28. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        And their branded anchoring is very interesting (and systematic) too. It's not brand + keyword (except in rare instances) or keyword + brand. It's Brand + partial or Brand + phrase, depending on the structure of ranking keyword. Yeah, I know. Makes no sense. 28/

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      29. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Ok, we're back on schedule, I'm going to try and push the rest of this out tonight, no promises. So back to 27/, this was eye opening to me, to say the least. I assumed that anchored links on hyper relevant sites would be fine, and I know other SEO who swear by them. 29/

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      30. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        It seems that the loophole that exists is that combining hyper relevant link sources along with nothing that can be considered over optimization, at least from the link anchoring standpoint, is some powerful mojo kryponite. Prob shouldn't post that but whatever, here we are. 30/

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      31. Grind Stone‏ @GrindstoneSEO 22 ene. 2019

        Wanting to make sure I wasn't affirming the consequent, I mapped out all the drops these sites experienced on their way up (note: I only had access to @serpwoo data for 7 of the niches so some extrapolation exists) and every single one can be tied to 2 simple factors. 31/

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